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cinematicdiversions

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65. Many of the gifted immigrants are from Africa.

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Sun Nov 7, 2021, 07:14 PM

Nov 2021

Which means California'd bizarre obsession with race based mathematics is simply not based on reality.

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California Tries to Close the Gap in Math, but Sets Off a Backlash [View all] cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 OP

Math is one subject that can't have race. It's actually the one thing that is the same jimfields33 Nov 2021 #1

Calculus is a waste of time for the majority of students. We need classes on how to budget and inves Pisces Nov 2021 #4

Very good suggestion exboyfil Nov 2021 #12

It shouldn't matter why kids take it. Mz Pip Nov 2021 #13

Math skills and ability to solve problems is beneficial regardless MichMan Nov 2021 #19

The vast majority of students don't take calculus in high school Sympthsical Nov 2021 #28

That is how it is here. In High School you can opt for college track courses. Midnight Writer Nov 2021 #45

I Agree About Calculus RobinA Nov 2021 #37

Kids can do Calculus but can't balance a check book or make change. What's wrong here? rickyhall Nov 2021 #42

I refuse to believe that MichMan Nov 2021 #43

I don't balance a checkbook. Hell I can't remember the last time I wrote a check...I go online and Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #58

Pretty sure the kids who can do calculus can also balance a checkbook and make change. Ms. Toad Nov 2021 #68

No it isn't. And gifted students matter too. These new guidelines are dreadful. Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #57

Half the people posting here on DU were totally fucked over by their maths education... hunter Nov 2021 #61

not tackling higher math early can limit choices later. decide on a stem major or doctor path Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #66

Every engineer needs calculus lostnfound Nov 2021 #71

Of course engineers need calculus, but non stem careers Pisces Nov 2021 #74

But apparently in this country there are differences Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #17

Math is something that only needs a book, blackboard and a teacher jimfields33 Nov 2021 #18

I couldn't agree more. Same with basic reading skills MichMan Nov 2021 #20

But there IS a disparity. Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #21

This is a culture problem not a race problem cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #27

Are you saying groups like African-Americans Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #30

I am saying this is clearly not a racial issue. cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #32

look at expections of teacher, look at quality of schools. watch the racial tropes Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #69

african americans value education. surprised to see that racist trope on DU Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #67

That is the point it isn't a racial trope. cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #72

yeah, you're real wrong about that. upper grades, yes. but primary grades? mopinko Nov 2021 #23

Its because of differences in home life Amishman Nov 2021 #26

The focus needs to be on improving the skills of Child C instead of holding back A & B MichMan Nov 2021 #47

yes, exactly. Amishman Nov 2021 #51

My guess would be school funding through property taxes is a factor. Midnight Writer Nov 2021 #48

I agree...but I doubt it can be changed. Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #59

No one is going to pursue that subject these days madville Nov 2021 #63

Ever read a word problem? iemanja Nov 2021 #73

It has been more than a while but I don't think there are many word problems in calculus. cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #75

While I don't agree with getting rid of calculus, Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #2

I think Statistics is more valuable than ever Sympthsical Nov 2021 #31

Focus should be on providing opportunity and things like one on one tutoring and other help JI7 Nov 2021 #3

The problem is this will hurt both those who have an advanced aptitude in math, and those who JohnSJ Nov 2021 #5

1. Some kinds of math are hated more than others Tetrachloride Nov 2021 #6

I had excellent public school math teachers. Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #15

Adding data science and Statistics to math Bettie Nov 2021 #7

No School District RobinA Nov 2021 #8

If any DU member has a child gifted or intrigued by math and Tetrachloride Nov 2021 #9

mine are grown now. but curious what you have to say. mopinko Nov 2021 #24

Its an eclectic set of techniques. whatever is lowest stress Tetrachloride Nov 2021 #34

my son mopinko Nov 2021 #40

Bizarre is right Mz Pip Nov 2021 #10

I guess I'm missing the link between math and social justice. Wingus Dingus Nov 2021 #11

Attempting to achieve equity between different racial groups I guess. MichMan Nov 2021 #22

they've been trying for years to get minority kids into better schools. mopinko Nov 2021 #25

Practical aspects of mathematics are never taught in high school FakeNoose Nov 2021 #14

Right. Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #16

A step-granddaughter took HS math that was ENTIRELY practical, Hortensis Nov 2021 #35

I'm glad to hear that! FakeNoose Nov 2021 #56

They've been trying to bring in Project Maths into secondary schools in Ireland for the last decade, OnDoutside Nov 2021 #60

Huge points for Harrison Bergeron reference! nolabear Nov 2021 #29

so sad to hear this out of cali, the only state that guarantees an "appropriate education" mopinko Nov 2021 #33

Math was my worst subject PlanetBev Nov 2021 #36

Math helped me get a management job 37 years after HS graduation sanatanadharma Nov 2021 #38

My kids would've hated being reined in MissB Nov 2021 #39

Calculus can be taught starting in kindergarten. hunter Nov 2021 #41

Americans would never cut sports to make those without athletic ability feel good. Dawson Leery Nov 2021 #44

Can you say, "Lowest Common Denominator," children? Hekate Nov 2021 #46

That's basically it madville Nov 2021 #64

A truly numpty attempt at bringing Idiocracy to life. Celerity Nov 2021 #49

The naturally gifted line is so wrong it is almost painful cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #62

CA is almost like another country Polybius Nov 2021 #50

CA also a leader / an innovator, 5th largest economy Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #70

I remember being "gifted" before... NowISeetheLight Nov 2021 #52

I look at the new crop of award-winning high school kids & know: we are coasting on our immigrants Hekate Nov 2021 #53

Many of the gifted immigrants are from Africa. cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #65

If you know differentiation, then you are a racist dalton99a Nov 2021 #54

The right way to close any math gap is certainly not to stop teaching math. Jim__ Nov 2021 #55