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qazplm135

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16. It won't by itself
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 12:51 PM
Nov 2021

but it would remove cover.

If the next parliamentarian says, sure, you can add in immigration reform, then Manchin and Sinema at least have to vote yes or no on the substance and not on, well the parliamentarian said we can't do it.

How will that get Manchin and Sinema to vote yes? AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2021 #1
it's optics and optics are important TomDaisy Nov 2021 #3
What are the optics of firing an official the average voter knows nothing about? brooklynite Nov 2021 #22
It won't by itself qazplm135 Nov 2021 #16
Yes! WA-03 Democrat Nov 2021 #2
Manchin will likely bolt the party, perhaps Sinema too, if we do that. Celerity Nov 2021 #4
and be nobodies in the GOP who will salivate to primary them? themaguffin Nov 2021 #7
they could go full indy and play the 2 parties against each other, perhaps get Murkowski and Celerity Nov 2021 #12
Highly doubtful. Their act requires a party themaguffin Nov 2021 #18
If they pulled that off, they would have a form of de facto control of both. Celerity Nov 2021 #21
They wouldn't pull it off. themaguffin Nov 2021 #23
as I said in the other thread, they'd have 'owned the libs' and be forgiven Amishman Nov 2021 #13
Nope. It's a party of grifters. Others will 100% primary them as purists and Manchin as themaguffin Nov 2021 #19
That'd be "playing by the rules" as McConnell defines it. Hortensis Nov 2021 #5
Doesn't matter if we do or don't do Sugarcoated Nov 2021 #17
The second part is correct, anyway. I missed pointing out Hortensis Nov 2021 #26
LOL Edit (the Chaplain part was funny) awesomerwb1 Nov 2021 #6
Yeah, it's a shame. It may well allow democracy to be destroyed here. HUAJIAO Nov 2021 #9
okay Grasswire2 Nov 2021 #14
You acknowledge that won't change anything onenote Nov 2021 #8
THIS! So much THIS! NewDayOranges Nov 2021 #10
exactly --- AND optics matter TomDaisy Nov 2021 #11
OPTICS MATTER. Grasswire2 Nov 2021 #15
Fire the parliamentarian for doing her job? Brilliant idea! tritsofme Nov 2021 #20
Fine. Just ignore her awesomerwb1 Nov 2021 #24
If we had the votes, that would be an option. tritsofme Nov 2021 #28
Sounds like something the previous guy would do madville Nov 2021 #25
That's like trying to fire the umpire in the 9th inning SCantiGOP Nov 2021 #27
Yes. Let's cheat! NurseJackie Nov 2021 #29
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