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In reply to the discussion: A Well Regulated Militia [View all]maxsolomon
(33,240 posts)24. What does "keep and bear" mean? What are "arms"?
To me, those refer to a military context. Armaments are weapons used for war, arms are kept in an armory (hence the name), they are borne in battle.
That makes sense in light of the 1st portion of the sentence, which lays out the purpose of the keeping and bearing: to provide security for a free state in the form of a well-regulated (properly armed and disciplined) militia.
But, you know, I'm in a minority. Guns fever! Pew pew! Go Team America.
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To me it was always that to have a well regulate militia, the people have to be allowed to own guns.
brewens
Oct 2021
#7
A pretty small percentage of people owned guns in the first place in the Colonies. Take away that
brewens
Oct 2021
#30
to me its crystal clear - which is why we need to erase it from our constitution
Blues Heron
Oct 2021
#20
The quote is a clause, not a sentence, and it's deliberately removed from its context.
lagomorph777
Oct 2021
#63
You Are Refering To Individual State Constitutions At The Founding, Sir?
The Magistrate
Oct 2021
#48
The term "well regulated" can cover many things, including what types of firearms are regulation. So
dameatball
Oct 2021
#3
They probably should have said that we can own guns for the purpose of serving in a well
brewens
Oct 2021
#10
I contend that morons allowed open carry does not qualify as a "well regulated militia".
pecosbob
Oct 2021
#32
No - it's written as it's written. I don't have to defend the Founders here.
lagomorph777
Oct 2021
#71
The 2nd covers guns expected to be used by the militia - i.e. uniform military-grade arms.
BusterMove
Oct 2021
#36
From Scholar Carol Anderson: "a constitutional right to form militias to put down slave revolts"
usonian
Oct 2021
#37
Anderson isn't wrong about one of the southern state motivation, but she ignores the fact..
SYFROYH
Oct 2021
#59
Yup. But gun-humpers (even here) will give you all kinds of excuses to ignore the first clause.
lagomorph777
Oct 2021
#62