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Tue Aug 17, 2021, 01:17 AM

I have decided I have no opinion on all this. That's because I really have... [View all]

no idea what happened.

Sure, I know we pulled out, the Taliban own the place without hardly firing a shot, thousands are stuck there, and the whole thing stinks.

But the back room deals, small decisions, compromises, and other myriad things that go into an operation like this won't be known for years.

We're dealing with war, and some very bad people. Not as bad as the Mongol hordes, or some others who tortured and killed for sport, but bad enough. And things have to be done, maybe some of them not so nice. Italy allied itself with Germany so Mussolini could get some African colonies back. Half of France said OK to the German occupiers, not wanting to relive the horror of the previous war. We let thousands die on the beaches on D-Day basically because it was easier to storm the beaches than other options.

And we dropped an atomic bomb, killing thousands more Japanese than we already killed firebombing Tokyo.

Bad shit happens. And sometimes you simply have to charge in and let the bodies fall. It shouldn't be, but as long as we have war, that's the way it is. I don't like it, but I'm not a God who could stop it.

Even today, we're arguing Saigon, and studying the options for the final surge into Germany. Did Ike really go for the long front because Monty wanted more action and didn't want to be Patton's anvil?

So, Biden gave the order. Maybe he could have done it better, and no doubt there were weeks of arguing over it before it happened. At some point he just said "Enough! This is what we're doing." And we did it.

And it sucks, but life sucks. And it could have been worse. That's no comfort-- no more than knowing many books will be written about all the plans and arguments.

So, it happened. It's over. And it sucks.

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