I do understand. He's not speaking in isolation, and I bet if he had (Reply #16)

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16. I do understand. He's not speaking in isolation, and I bet if he had

50 votes without Manchin and Sinema, this VRA carve out would be done and dusted by now.

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39 replies	Author	Time	Post
WTF?!? Biden opposes abandoning the filibuster to pass federal voting rights legislation... [View all]	Nevilledog	Jul 2021	OP
Everyone Thinks Manchin & Sinema Are The Only Ones	SoCalDavidS	Jul 2021	#1
It's quite possible he knows what he's doing. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt	Walleye	Jul 2021	#2
I think it is quite possible that he wants an exception, without breaking the filibuster.	Bev54	Jul 2021	#3
Sometimes Biden comes across in a bad way to me.	triron	Jul 2021	#4
yup	Skittles	Jul 2021	#5
I doubt he supports another exception. Hell, Sinema wants to reverse the 2 now and go to 60 votes	Celerity	Jul 2021	#7
It is scary to hear Dems still promoting fantasy "bipartisan" ideas.	lagomorph777	Jul 2021	#35
hardly surprising, he has said this for ages	Celerity	Jul 2021	#6
Folks are not listening between the lines. He doesn't want to blow up the big infrastructure stuff.	joetheman	Jul 2021	#8
The bi-partisan smaller one that the Rethugs are now playing 'pull the football' games with? Or the	Celerity	Jul 2021	#11
If Biden is talking about going back to a talking filibuster, Manchin opposes that (and Sinema, and	Celerity	Jul 2021	#9
That's from April....this is from June 16	OnDoutside	Jul 2021	#18
That has nothing to do with the talking filibuster nor Sinema or Feinstein	Celerity	Jul 2021	#19
Not specifically, no, however you quoted a piece headlined	OnDoutside	Jul 2021	#23
Manchin is not the only one opposed. Sinema is even more hardcore.	Celerity	Jul 2021	#24
I honestly believe that Sinema will fall in line once Manchin agrees (iirc she signed up to	OnDoutside	Jul 2021	#25
Did you miss the thread you're posting on?	FBaggins	Jul 2021	#29
No I didn't miss anything. I'd have no doubt he was channelling Manchin.	OnDoutside	Jul 2021	#39
No... Manchin favors it.	FBaggins	Jul 2021	#21
Unacceptable.	Mike Niendorff	Jul 2021	#10
Dems have been asleep at the wheel on this issue	radius777	Jul 2021	#12
+1, ... because too many don't believe it'll affect elections but we see the effects in polling !!!	uponit7771	Jul 2021	#14
and Biden says people will vote anyway,	radius777	Jul 2021	#15
+1, I they have it objectively wrong; making it harder to vote them peephole won't vote !!!	uponit7771	Jul 2021	#20
Bottom line, should voting rights pass he isn't NOT going to sign it. Plus it's probably politically	PortTack	Jul 2021	#13
He didn't say that.	OnDoutside	Jul 2021	#17
Wow, that's leadership. "Isn't going to not sign it..."	lagomorph777	Jul 2021	#36
I do understand. He's not speaking in isolation, and I bet if he had	OnDoutside	Jul 2021	#16
Happened to catch this question and answer on the fillibuster	Deminpenn	Jul 2021	#22
Oh, for Pete's sake. Stop it	NurseJackie	Jul 2021	#26
+1	betsuni	Jul 2021	#27
Maybe he's hoping for a better playing field after the mid-terms	Mysterian	Jul 2021	#28
It'll be too late after the mid-terms.	lagomorph777	Jul 2021	#37
Democrats have the ball, second down and 3 at the Republican 20 yardline.	Roisin Ni Fiachra	Jul 2021	#30
+1, problem is Manchin isn't the ONLY person wanting to keep the filibuster he's just the face of it	uponit7771	Jul 2021	#32
Gee, when it was just Manchin and Sinema to vilify, we were being told to "get tough with them"...	brooklynite	Jul 2021	#31
I.....I........I don't understand.	Ferrets are Cool	Jul 2021	#33
Republicans are suppressing voting rights	aocommunalpunch	Jul 2021	#34
He also said that he thinks the Senate should go back to an actual filibuster	mcar	Jul 2021	#38

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