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Disaffected

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17. Certainly there is a line somewhere but,
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 11:22 AM
Jul 2021

we simply don't know where it is. The assumption that lobsters are not sentient to any degree is only that - an assumption. And, when you get right down to it, there is not even a conclusive way of knowing that anyone, either than yourself, is actually sentient. We just do not know enough about the functioning of nervous systems to tell.

When, if ever, we come up with an explanation of exactly how a nervous system causes sentience, we will be in a better position to know.

BTW, in the 19th century IIRC there was a theory going around in certain European laboratories that animals such as dogs used in experiments were not sentient and therefore could not experience pain. So, they were strapped down and operated on without anesthesia along with other horrific experimental procedures.

UK weighs ban on boiling live lobsters [View all] Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 OP
Why do they try desperately to escape the pot then? Treefrog Jul 2021 #1
+1 2naSalit Jul 2021 #2
Presumably because lobsters which try to get away from something which damages them are more likely Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #4
Reflexes don't require the ability to feel pain, or even a brain. nt. Mariana Jul 2021 #10
I should think it's chauvinistic to discriminate for or against vertebrates. CoopersDad Jul 2021 #3
I love that movie and I approve the proposed changes in GB to include invertebrates for protection. MoonRiver Jul 2021 #13
From Google index Submariner Jul 2021 #5
Ah yes, Mary Tyler Moore comes to mind. Croney Jul 2021 #6
I have no conclusive evidence that other human beings feel pain as I do sanatanadharma Jul 2021 #7
All life is sentient? Clams? Fleas? Bacteria? Radishes? Surely you draw the line somewhere. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #14
I do draw lines and color outside of the margins sanatanadharma Jul 2021 #16
Certainly there is a line somewhere but, Disaffected Jul 2021 #17
Until very recently - Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #15
Yes, another good example of Disaffected Jul 2021 #18
Many crustaceans have sarisataka Jul 2021 #8
I'm with you on octopuses wryter2000 Jul 2021 #21
I love lobsters... NurseJackie Jul 2021 #9
They are probably better when steamed anyway... Klaralven Jul 2021 #19
If lobsters looked like puppies, we wouldn't allow it Clash City Rocker Jul 2021 #11
How does one stun mussels or clams? dhol82 Jul 2021 #12
How would they like for them to be killed? wryter2000 Jul 2021 #20
So what now? Lethal injection? 48656c6c6f20 Jul 2021 #22
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