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TheOther95Percent

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3. My sister is condo hunting in Florida
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 01:10 PM
Jun 2021

She's looking in the Orlando area to be closer to her children and grandchildren and she is avoiding high rises. She's also avoiding anything built before the building codes were reinforced after Hurricane Andrew so nothing built before 1994. Her RE agent said that a couple of people who were ready to go to contract have backed out of the deals since last week. Lots of articles in the Florida press and TV reports on the shoddy construction in the 1980s.

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Right there with you, my dear Initech! CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2021 #1
Hey, I work in an engineering firm. We've seen some real atrocities over the years! Initech Jun 2021 #53
Many years ago I worked as a security guard in one place... malthaussen Jun 2021 #90
Regulations? We don't need no stinkin' regulations. PsakiPswirli Jun 2021 #2
Welcome to DU. nt littlemissmartypants Jun 2021 #31
I heard an NPR interview wnylib Jun 2021 #49
Management has no excuse. lpbk2713 Jun 2021 #58
That's pretty much what I thought wnylib Jun 2021 #61
I doubt iy was $100K per unit. luvtheGWN Jun 2021 #71
I believe the last assessment for the building was $15 MILLION blugbox Jun 2021 #94
I heard on NPR that they've been assessed maintenance fees for years. summer_in_TX Jun 2021 #69
My sister is condo hunting in Florida TheOther95Percent Jun 2021 #3
I feel sorry for anyone who closed escrow on one of the buildings recently Demovictory9 Jun 2021 #48
Florida Has A Long-Time Rep For Dodgy Real Estate Dealings smb Jun 2021 #76
Have her wait - the prices are going down RainCaster Jun 2021 #96
Great post malaise Jun 2021 #4
But to be fair, Malaise, one person's cultural issue is another's quality of life issue. jaxexpat Jun 2021 #62
I'm going to agree with the "shortage of skilled construction labor" thing jmowreader Jul 2021 #105
Sounds like one where the owner of the company had no experience either. jaxexpat Jul 2021 #106
You would think, but no jmowreader Jul 2021 #108
According to the structural engineering professor on TV this morning (CNN)... Blanks Jun 2021 #5
Yeah, I think the original design was part of the problem... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #40
I would venture a guess that the condo business in the Miami area is going to fall off greatly. n/t SheilaAnn Jun 2021 #6
My background RAB910 Jun 2021 #7
Someone who knows stuff! Do you think the ground under the building contributed? Scrivener7 Jun 2021 #11
They drive piles 50 feet into the crappy soil (or whatever they are dealing with) RAB910 Jun 2021 #16
It's possible there was a void, or as I said water from flooding and rising water tables changed the RAB910 Jun 2021 #23
Thank you! It will be interesting to see what they find. And whether this is going to Scrivener7 Jun 2021 #25
Yes, if they are honest not fooled Jun 2021 #64
That seems like a good contender, given its location and rising sea levels. If so, NH Ethylene Jun 2021 #68
If it's a failure of the foundation do to soil condition changes- yes RAB910 Jun 2021 #81
The last words one woman said to her husband, as she stood on their balcony, were... Hekate Jun 2021 #13
Yeah, I have heard that RAB910 Jun 2021 #26
I agree with you Yonnie3 Jun 2021 #18
That's interesting. So the problems mentioned so far JI7 Jun 2021 #20
I'm certain that multiple factors will be the cause Yonnie3 Jun 2021 #28
Considering that Florida is sinkhole city .... TexasBushwhacker Jun 2021 #78
Yeah Yonnie3 Jun 2021 #79
that area isn't known for sinkholes like the rest of the state RAB910 Jun 2021 #86
Assuredly multiple factors zipplewrath Jun 2021 #24
Exactly, these buildings are built to withstand a hurricane and then some RAB910 Jun 2021 #27
One observation about the weather in this area whopis01 Jun 2021 #50
The only issue with the sink hole theory is that area is not that prone to them RAB910 Jun 2021 #82
There was a sinkhole in the Little Havana area of Miami last week whopis01 Jun 2021 #100
Are we all making an erroneous assumption that it was actually... NeoGreen Jun 2021 #55
Possible, although it would be impressive for a building to last 40 years if it wasn't up to code RAB910 Jun 2021 #83
something was mentioned about construction equipment on the roof dsc Jun 2021 #42
From the documents I have read the work on the roof shouldn't have been all that impactful RAB910 Jun 2021 #85
I'm Thinking No ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #109
How about DownriverDem Jun 2021 #60
very possible RAB910 Jun 2021 #84
Having seen wiring techniques Turbineguy Jun 2021 #8
Miami-Dade county is its own little banana republic bluecollar2 Jun 2021 #9
That is what is going on with the electrical grid in Texas. appleannie1 Jun 2021 #10
Their problem was that the concrete slab that held the pool etc was built flat like most LiberalArkie Jun 2021 #12
Luck? moondust Jun 2021 #14
Agreed and moniss Jun 2021 #15
Excellent post. llmart Jun 2021 #29
Thank you and moniss Jun 2021 #33
I love it when they say "how could this happen" without an answer. Initech Jun 2021 #45
Engineering is a science-based discipline. FL, DeSantis, home-schooled R's, sheer ignorance boom! machoneman Jun 2021 #17
It doesnt happen more happen more often due to a simple reason GusBob Jun 2021 #19
Miami Beach is a sand bar FakeNoose Jun 2021 #21
You are so right moniss Jun 2021 #35
Those high risers freak me out. lindysalsagal Jun 2021 #22
No lie. malthaussen Jun 2021 #91
As the infrastructure deteriorates, this will happen a little more. Jarqui Jun 2021 #30
Eventually the moniss Jun 2021 #36
I've caught the steel substitution more than once. Jarqui Jun 2021 #74
Agreed and moniss Jun 2021 #102
They were building Sgent Jun 2021 #103
Although moniss Jul 2021 #111
How much of that would they have in a building that appears to be Jarqui Jul 2021 #112
My moniss Jul 2021 #113
You know the deal on insurance companies Jarqui Jul 2021 #115
Sadly this moniss Jul 2021 #116
Agree completely Jarqui Jul 2021 #117
Florida probably has Trump-style developers IronLionZion Jun 2021 #32
Well yeah, just look at Mar-A-Lago! Initech Jun 2021 #41
Ugh! How disgusting! smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #77
How can he be aware the dangers of COVID IronLionZion Jun 2021 #93
Yes, they do. All of the above. And they're not the only ones. SharonAnn Jun 2021 #70
Designed to rip off everyone and then get blown up? lindysalsagal Jun 2021 #92
It happens everyday, inspector passes marginal concrete, techniques, etc... Historic NY Jun 2021 #34
It must be that some or most owners/landlords do maintenance and repairs. bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #37
Yep, Glaisne Jun 2021 #38
I found this meme at the start of the pandemic: Initech Jun 2021 #43
With all the buildings, bridges, dams, and highways that are on the verge of failure... Binkie The Clown Jun 2021 #39
Oh this thing is going to end like Fight Club. Initech Jun 2021 #44
I guess I don't really know what I'm looking at in those photos-- Wingus Dingus Jun 2021 #46
Your thoroughly uninformed opinion bluecollar2 Jun 2021 #51
what in those 2 pics shows imminent collapse? I see peeling paint and poorly place wiring msongs Jun 2021 #47
Concrete has completely failed in the left picture. bluecollar2 Jun 2021 #54
I'm sure this condo was built on bribes. JohnnyRingo Jun 2021 #52
I thought exactly that when I read about a "40 year evaluation" Skittles Jun 2021 #56
There were no dire warnings. Just a few concerns brought up Quixote1818 Jun 2021 #57
Let's see the owners of this structure try to justify not making repairs. Sure they are lawyered up Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #59
Many of the owners Zeitghost Jun 2021 #65
Why did the part of the vuilding fronting on Collins Ave NOT collapse? Warpy Jun 2021 #63
I keep wondering how many people have contacted our condo board.... LAS14 Jun 2021 #66
They have been fairly recently built Klaralven Jun 2021 #67
There are probably many locations across the US that have hidden problems. pjpossum Jun 2021 #72
I would have expected LA to run a tighter ship about building regulation. TomSlick Jun 2021 #75
A year or two ago pjpossum Jul 2021 #104
That would explain it. TomSlick Jul 2021 #107
A current council person is under indictment fromthe FBI. pjpossum Jul 2021 #110
Same in Texas with that one crop storage bin uponit7771 Jun 2021 #73
i worked construction in those days. mopinko Jun 2021 #80
One thing that may be a factor that has not been discussed much is panader0 Jun 2021 #87
Yes, here and there, the replacement of fresh water in the limestone with salt. nt LAS14 Jun 2021 #88
Don't even need ammonium nitrate. malthaussen Jun 2021 #89
I don't think that's saltwater WarGamer Jun 2021 #95
Yeah I'm guessing they spent zero on pool maintenance. Initech Jun 2021 #97
evidently not enough ;) WarGamer Jun 2021 #98
It will be half dozen things, but the final factor may be rising sea & salt infiltration Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2021 #99
Inspectors are good. shenmue Jun 2021 #101
The reason this happens is the same reason a lot of bad things happen, we assume competence. Renew Deal Jul 2021 #114
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