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Happy Hoosier

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34. Use taxes like these are regressive

Mon Jun 21, 2021, 04:35 PM

Jun 2021

And in this case we want ti encourage the use of electric vehicles. Electric cars are already more expensive. Adding use taxes would slow the transition. We should be pating for transportation from the general fund, IMO.

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Electric Vehicle Owners Should Not Pay Fees [View all] erpowers Jun 2021 OP

Their impacts are covered by fees to recycle their batteries, fees to discard their used tires hlthe2b Jun 2021 #1

if u want to use the services u help contribute to the upkeep nt msongs Jun 2021 #2

I agree and think a nominal gas-tax replacement for road upkeep is fair Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #7

Use taxes like these are regressive Happy Hoosier Jun 2021 #34

no doubt e-car users want to use the roads free at somebody else' expense nt msongs Jun 2021 #36

Then how about we charge the people who use it the most JCMach1 Jun 2021 #68

EV owners are making their contribution against climate change KentuckyStiffRipple Jun 2021 #72

I saw a blerb on the tv machine on how Oregon is toying with the idea of a gizmo that mitch96 Jun 2021 #3

I got charged extra on registration just because my car gets good gas mileage happybird Jun 2021 #18

What state are you in? onenote Jun 2021 #45

Virginia happybird Jun 2021 #46

It is a question worthy of debate. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #4

New York state Casady1 Jun 2021 #5

I disagree. Captain Stern Jun 2021 #6

New York state Casady1 Jun 2021 #10

That is why nobody should be promoting a gas tax Bev54 Jun 2021 #8

In NJ, gas taxes are for roads, but governors redirect to the General Fund to balance budgets. TheBlackAdder Jun 2021 #29

Yes in Canada we have a number of cities that have gas taxes Bev54 Jun 2021 #30

Seeing as there are no "electric vehicles prohibited" roads in the U.S. gratuitous Jun 2021 #9

Also State taxes on gas that go to the State's DOT EX500rider Jun 2021 #14

Who owns the charging stations? Throck Jun 2021 #11

Many public charging stations are used by those without garages/carports tinrobot Jun 2021 #20

Fuel is a commodity. Throck Jun 2021 #58

Yes, but your solution is not taxing the fuel equally. tinrobot Jun 2021 #63

With a smart electric meter it would not be a problem. Throck Jun 2021 #64

Most are private, some are put in as "good will" to promote the use of EVs Rstrstx Jun 2021 #31

At the local university users pay with a credit card. Throck Jun 2021 #57

Because EVs don't put any wear and tear on the roads, I gather? PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #12

Clears throat: then charge commercial vehicles for the inordinate wear JCMach1 Jun 2021 #69

Don't those vehicles typically use far more gas than PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #71

The weight and size damage the infrastructure... JCMach1 Jun 2021 #79

No, they put much less wear and tear on our atmosphere. KentuckyStiffRipple Jun 2021 #74

Do electric vehicles not use roads and bridges? Deminpenn Jun 2021 #13

"I want to benefit from the infrastructure, but not pay for it" is a rather republican idea. PSPS Jun 2021 #15

Do public schools charge parents tuition? DBoon Jun 2021 #35

In Onslow County NC we do pay a small tuition fee for public schools. marie999 Jun 2021 #50

So are gasoline vehichles properly charged for their role in climate change? DBoon Jun 2021 #42

You want to benefit from the climate contributions of EV owners KentuckyStiffRipple Jun 2021 #75

The gas tax is the only current mode of paying for upkeep of roads. Caliman73 Jun 2021 #16

I bought a 2020 Honda CRV last year. I was considering the hybrid version but it didn't appear doc03 Jun 2021 #17

I'm an EV owner and happy to pay a bit more. tinrobot Jun 2021 #19

No fuel tax for any type of vehicle. Collect tolls for various types. NCjack Jun 2021 #21

The US is still behind the curve on EV adoption Shermann Jun 2021 #22

I discussed this with my rep and suggested a tire tax Qutzupalotl Jun 2021 #23

That's a good idea, at least until some new super-durable tire is invented. Towlie Jun 2021 #28

Very strong conservative argument you are making. RegularJam Jun 2021 #24

No, you're on the right wing, anti-environment side. KentuckyStiffRipple Jun 2021 #76

That's funny. RegularJam Jun 2021 #78

How do we pay for roads, bridges, tunnels, etc? FSogol Jun 2021 #25

How do we pay for public schools? DBoon Jun 2021 #39

We should. roamer65 Jun 2021 #49

Because as liberals we believe that everyone has a role in funding a better society. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #59

How about a carbon tax approach? Pobeka Jun 2021 #26

Well, now...that's a Libertarian point of view if I ever heard one. MineralMan Jun 2021 #27

When you call 911 are your charged a fee for your use of that service? DBoon Jun 2021 #38

Property taxes pay for police and fire. MineralMan Jun 2021 #44

As soon as electric cars fly, they can skip road taxes. What if I brew my own gasoline: do I owe ... marble falls Jun 2021 #32

The damage done to the environment by fossil fuesl is reason enough to not tax electric vehicles. DBoon Jun 2021 #33

Electricity is increasingly produced by burning natural gas, a fossil fuel, Deminpenn Jun 2021 #51

I thought renewable energy was on the rise Rstrstx Jun 2021 #60

It is, but fossil fuel generated electricity is still a big majority Deminpenn Jun 2021 #65

You're opposed to EV taxes but you're arguing for taxing EV owners more. It's confusing. mathematic Jun 2021 #77

Most of us should be living in pleasant urban environments where owning a car is unnecessary. hunter Jun 2021 #37

Well, in our state we have an "excise tax" MissMillie Jun 2021 #40

EVs are already heavily subsidized by the taxpayers. former9thward Jun 2021 #41

Here it 'tis flotsam Jun 2021 #43

Toll roads. roamer65 Jun 2021 #47

No. rockfordfile Jun 2021 #55

Yes. roamer65 Jun 2021 #56

Lol, funny! Nt USALiberal Jun 2021 #67

every person benefits from the highway system so the tax should be universal. Kaleva Jun 2021 #48

Electric and hybrid vehicles impact roads same as any other vehicle. maxsolomon Jun 2021 #52

And we all benefit from roads and bridges, even if we never use them StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #80

People love higher taxes as long as someone else is the one paying them MichMan Jun 2021 #53

I agree for now. The only people that push electric car fee are fossil fuel supporters. rockfordfile Jun 2021 #54

In MANY states, EV pay a special registration fee. WarGamer Jun 2021 #61

The road tax on EVs should arguably be higher... jmowreader Jun 2021 #62

We all know the eventual solution - Mileage tax based on vehicle weight madville Jun 2021 #66

We keep the fees off with Federal law until it reaches a tipping point JCMach1 Jun 2021 #70

We're encouraging EV ownership through rebates and tax credits KentuckyStiffRipple Jun 2021 #73