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StarfishSaver

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49. And you don't seem to understand the difference between publicly objecting to regulatory policy

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 11:50 PM

Jun 2021

and defying a grand jury subpoena while under a court-imposed gag order.

Your continued insistence on equating the two situations, despite having your misunderstanding debunked repeatedly is pretty remarkable.

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So why did Apple work with Trump administration? [View all] rogue emissary Jun 2021 OP

They didn't "work with" them StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #1

So it's another example FoxNewsSucks Jun 2021 #3

No. That's not what it is StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #5

re: post #6 FoxNewsSucks Jun 2021 #9

There is indeed a difference between objecting to an administration's regulatory policy and StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #15

Point noted, FoxNewsSucks Jun 2021 #18

Grand jury subpoenas are issued in secret, so we don't know that DOJ isn't issuing them StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #22

How could they get a Grand Jury subpoena on Schiff? Come on. triron Jun 2021 #38

You really need to read the NY Times article before you try to discuss this any further StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #45

I read it and it didn't explain the grand jury thing LymphocyteLover Jun 2021 #61

From the article StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #62

that's what I don't understand LymphocyteLover Jun 2021 #60

Name a legal summons that Apple "fought" during the Obama Administration. brooklynite Jun 2021 #20

If that's the case, FoxNewsSucks Jun 2021 #26

You mean a legal summons like a "subpoena"? brooklynite Jun 2021 #29

Why did Apple comply? Republicans didn't. triron Jun 2021 #39

So its okay to act illegally as long as someone else does? brooklynite Jun 2021 #41

What Republican refused to comply with a grand jury subpoena? StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #46

Apple has more lawyers than cicadas currently in D.C. Ellipsis Jun 2021 #30

Because the Obama administration didn't abuse power the way the Trump administration did StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #31

I'm not complaining that Obama didn't act illegally, FoxNewsSucks Jun 2021 #37

Administrations don't go around issuing subpoenas StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #44

You need to do a lot more reading!!! Nt USALiberal Jun 2021 #63

true, but Obama went through many of the same legal actions and they fought them in court. rogue emissary Jun 2021 #4

What grand jury subpoenas under Obama are you referring to? StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #7

There were multiple case of the Obama DOJ wanting and having to fight Apple to get information. rogue emissary Jun 2021 #10

Again I ask - what subpoenas did the Obama administration issue to Apple that Apple fought and StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #16

And Apple always follows the laws? rogue emissary Jun 2021 #23

Nice try StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #25

I keep repeating that they were very public in 08 to 16. rogue emissary Jun 2021 #28

What criminal laws did Apple break that would have resulted in them being jailed immediately? StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #32

They weren't under a gag order at that time. And if you're under a gag order Ocelot II Jun 2021 #33

Sigh StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #34

Yup. Ocelot II Jun 2021 #35

SO Apple has always followed every law that been imposed on them? rogue emissary Jun 2021 #40

They didn't this time. Should they have? Ocelot II Jun 2021 #42

Honestly, it doesn't matter what I want them to do. rogue emissary Jun 2021 #47

And you don't seem to understand the difference between publicly objecting to regulatory policy StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #49

The reason they didn't fight Trump as loudly as they fought Obama Ocelot II Jun 2021 #51

This is an explosive news story with serious ramifications. StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #52

Good point. I'm done trying to explain where explanation seems unwanted. Ocelot II Jun 2021 #55

Yep. StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #56

I'm not blaming them for what Trump DOJ wanted. rogue emissary Jun 2021 #54

You want Apple to break the law using Roger Stone as the model? StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #58

There are serious penalties for defying subpoenas and violating gag orders. Ocelot II Jun 2021 #27

name them... specifically. Ellipsis Jun 2021 #36

Facts are very important. And understanding the process. You are very patient. LiberalFighter Jun 2021 #53

Well that ain't fucking cool Blue Owl Jun 2021 #2

When you get a grand jury subpoena you don't have a lot of choice. Ocelot II Jun 2021 #11

Yup! MenloParque Jun 2021 #12

CEO Tim Cook has always supported Democrats, and raised millions for Obama and Hillary. Elwood P Dowd Jun 2021 #13

There you go with those stubborn facts ... StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #17

here's some more facts. . . rogue emissary Jun 2021 #43

Irrelevant facts that have absolutely nothing to do with Apple complying with a grand jury subpoena StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #48

you deemed them relevant. rogue emissary Jun 2021 #50

Let's see. "Tim Apple" was with trumpy in March 2019 soothsayer Jun 2021 #6

The records were subpoenaed. That's not "working with" the Trump administration. Ocelot II Jun 2021 #8

again I'm asking why didn't we know this when Trump DOJ made these request. rogue emissary Jun 2021 #14

They didn't talk about it because of a GAG ORDER StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #19

Gag order, like they did wrt CNN. Ocelot II Jun 2021 #21

#16. obnoxiousdrunk Jun 2021 #24

Cuz cilla4progress Jun 2021 #57

Because the Trump DOJ supeaned Sgent Jun 2021 #59