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Sur Zobra

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126. That's the whole enchilada

Mon May 3, 2021, 12:05 PM

May 2021

Say goodbye to the strides girls and women have made as a result of Title IX if transgendered females are allowed to compete in women’s sports in high school an college, also say goodbye to our daughters getting athletic scholarships to college.

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The Entire Transgender Athlete Controversy is Bullshit from the Right [View all] MineralMan May 2021 OP

I agree with you 100% Diamond_Dog May 2021 #1

Thanks! MineralMan May 2021 #2

I said this on another thread: this is a problem that affects like 0.00000001% of the population. Initech May 2021 #3

Yes, exactly. MineralMan May 2021 #7

Another disadvantaged minority for them to pick on - Ocelot II May 2021 #4

Exactly. MineralMan May 2021 #10

I love how these meat-heads are suddenly concerned about women's / girls sports. Coventina May 2021 #5

Winner!!! we can do it May 2021 #12

Absolutely. As hard as we had to fight to get girls sports in school. The GOP was never on our side. Walleye May 2021 #26

GOP have long been masters at ginning up controversy over nothing mcar May 2021 #6

Republican Culture War bullshit that negatively affects minorities nationwide... Humanist_Activist May 2021 #8

I disagree on this one. Arthur_Frain May 2021 #9

You are incorrect. MineralMan May 2021 #13

The repubs are weaponizing this as they do everything they pretend to care about. FM123 May 2021 #20

You certainly could Zeitghost May 2021 #21

Biology is not irrelevant. Arthur_Frain May 2021 #33

You really need to educate yourself on this obamanut2012 May 2021 #41

In competition who can lift more weight, who can run faster, who can throw a shotput or discus marie999 May 2021 #82

They're not wrong. redqueen May 2021 #105

Whew, lotta ignorance here in your post. WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #17

Well Arthur_Frain May 2021 #34

Why should we ignore ignorance and misinformation? obamanut2012 May 2021 #44

Not so. Ocelot II May 2021 #19

Although some folks have responded as such Arthur_Frain May 2021 #37

JFC obamanut2012 May 2021 #45

Because members here are steeped in the same trans-hostile culture Ms. Toad May 2021 #68

No, some of us look at sports and see that men excel over women in powerlifting, swimming, and marie999 May 2021 #83

Thank you, once again, not having the backs of LGBT people. Ms. Toad May 2021 #85

My post was strictly about sports. You have no idea about my views about the marie999 May 2021 #87

Your post about sports speaks volumes. Ms. Toad May 2021 #88

Yes my post about sports speaks volumes. marie999 May 2021 #89

If that gives you comfort, so be it. Ms. Toad May 2021 #91

I agree AZProgressive May 2021 #109

I know a number of trans children, Ms. Toad May 2021 #75

Beyond epic fail obamanut2012 May 2021 #40

None of what you say is accurate mcar May 2021 #66

I think it's mostly about using Haggard Celine May 2021 #11

When I was in middle school, I took a peek into an unoccupied MineralMan May 2021 #14

The whole notion is ridiculous. Ocelot II May 2021 #15

Exactly! MineralMan May 2021 #16

And we have at least one user here spoonfeeding DU every bit of it. It's a bit much. (Nt) FreepFryer May 2021 #18

A couple users on this site exclusively post on threads about trans issues. Oneironaut May 2021 #47

This. Appreciate the confirmation. (Nt). FreepFryer May 2021 #50

If there is no competitive advantage... Zeitghost May 2021 #22

But your daughter isn't on a level playing field. That's the whole point of sports. WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #23

Why not? Because athletes want to have equality in athletics MineralMan May 2021 #25

The reason we separate men and women sports is that, in general, women aren't competitive LisaL May 2021 #38

+1 North Shore Chicago May 2021 #108

That's the whole enchilada Sur Zobra May 2021 #126

It's an interesting question, requiring knowledge and education. It's ridiculous to label... LAS14 May 2021 #24

Do you not understand how few people this applies to? MineralMan May 2021 #27

If it affects nobody, why are you concerned about it? LisaL May 2021 #42

Because it is rank misinformation and bigotry obamanut2012 May 2021 #46

Most transgender women I have met are physically comparable to most cis women haele May 2021 #28

Jenner was an Olympic Champion in decathlon. LisaL May 2021 #39

Zero advantage obamanut2012 May 2021 #48

Once Caitlyn Jenner started taking testosterone blockers, that advantage is gone. WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #49

Just like that? LisaL May 2021 #51

It usually takes a year or so. WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #57

What if a M to F trans teen in high shool is not on any sort of testosterone blockers or Celerity May 2021 #92

"Should they be allowed to compete in girl's athletic events?" WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #93

oki, I agree on the 2nd, disagree on the first, thanks Celerity May 2021 #99

Jenner has also not continued to train over the past three decades. haele May 2021 #76

I saw a clip this morning of Stephanie Ruhle and the Governor of West Virginia: It's very good. panader0 May 2021 #29

There really isn't any evidence. MineralMan May 2021 #32

Sports that exclude men is an issue DontBelieveEastisEas May 2021 #61

This thread is not about that. MineralMan May 2021 #113

Exactly cabot May 2021 #30

Except Hubbard has no more testerone than the woman she beat obamanut2012 May 2021 #52

There were years prior to transition while her body reaped benefits of testosterone (muscle mass, LisaL May 2021 #55

Mail pelvic girdle, hip sockets, and femur alignment for running, etc. Klaralven May 2021 #80

Sounded sincere to me DontBelieveEastisEas May 2021 #58

No, I just have empathy cabot May 2021 #71

K&R ismnotwasm May 2021 #31

The exception nearly always proves the rule gulliver May 2021 #35

So you are proposing to DNA test all the kiddies in order to let them participate in sports? LisaL May 2021 #36

Y or no Y DontBelieveEastisEas May 2021 #54

There is an athlete who played on women's teams in college and Ilsa May 2021 #56

There is a big controversy about this lady competing, LisaL May 2021 #59

Athletes perform differently at different parts of their menstrual cycles due to hormonal WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #62

She's not the one I was thinking of, Ilsa May 2021 #97

So Mack Beggs should keep wrestling people who are also XX? WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #60

Since he was taking testosterone, it would have made a lot more sense to let him compete LisaL May 2021 #90

He was actually taking a small enough dose as well as puberty blockers to ensure he could continue WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #94

They would have let him compete as a girl regardless of how much testosterone he took, LisaL May 2021 #98

They need something new malaise May 2021 #43

Why have Men and Women Divisions at all ? DontBelieveEastisEas May 2021 #53

When you talk about "generally outperforming," you're still going to have standouts. WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #70

It is weird DontBelieveEastisEas May 2021 #72

The Olympics disagree with you. WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #73

NO (actually yes due to genome sequencing) DontBelieveEastisEas May 2021 #74

"But at the Olympics, if there were a simple test, don't you think they would do it?" WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #77

You win this point, for now. DontBelieveEastisEas May 2021 #81

Talent and skill can certainly make a difference. Nexus2 May 2021 #129

GOP needed a new punching-bag & adult LGBTQ are by now too strong, so they picked little kids... Hekate May 2021 #63

Issue for Whom DontBelieveEastisEas May 2021 #69

Let me remind you of 2004, Ms. Toad May 2021 #78

I'm with you. DontBelieveEastisEas May 2021 #84

"as if they were the most female person in the world" - can you get any more offensive? Ms. Toad May 2021 #86

Not on everything DontBelieveEastisEas May 2021 #101

Trans women are women. Period. Ms. Toad May 2021 #102

Then change the limiting factor DontBelieveEastisEas May 2021 #103

No. You call it the women's league. Ms. Toad May 2021 #107

The more knots you tie yourself into with "those born as non Y genetics" to describe human beings WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #95

rope or twine DontBelieveEastisEas May 2021 #100

Human Beings ARE Animals. MineralMan May 2021 #116

From Others DontBelieveEastisEas May 2021 #124

Yes Hekate May 2021 #96

I don't think you are addressing my statement.It is a huge issue for individuals & their families... Hekate May 2021 #79

I think that part of the issue is that the idea has an initial glean of 'truth' to it. Nexus2 May 2021 #64

When a 15 year old Caitlin Jenner wants to join the JV girls track team prodigitalson May 2021 #65

NOT TRUE DontBelieveEastisEas May 2021 #67

You are right and wrong. redqueen May 2021 #104

What is the purpose of high school sports? hunter May 2021 #106

Some people enjoy playing sports. Many get scholarships from high school sports. redqueen May 2021 #110

College sports scholarships are fucked up too. hunter May 2021 #120

It's not absurd that it's a national issue redqueen May 2021 #123

The Democratic Party needs to punch back hard. hunter May 2021 #125

I think Republicans are worse AZProgressive May 2021 #128

If they are playing on high level, it could enable them to get an athletic scholarship to college. LisaL May 2021 #115

Professional sports is entertainment. hunter May 2021 #121

It's much more likely, as discussed in the thread on Twitter, that there isn't a boys team to WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #111

Because if some girls are born male, they have advantages redqueen May 2021 #112

They're assigned male at birth. WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #117

In case of a guy playing on girl's team, it doesn't appear he is transgender. LisaL May 2021 #114

But is it fair if a girl doesn't get to play because he's on the team? WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #118

Interesting, but irrelevant to the topic. MineralMan May 2021 #119

Like I said, people have an intuitive sense of fairness. redqueen May 2021 #122

Thye love easy targets RANDYWILDMAN May 2021 #127