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hlthe2b

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39. It is the classic example used to teach those who do not understand the concept of confounding

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 19, 2021, 04:14 AM

Mar 2021

as you, apparently do not. Yes, for anyone who understands epidemiological concepts it is the ultimate ridiculous example of correlation that does not equate to "cause and effect," but instead may be a relationship MASKED by unrelated factors--that is why it is used to teach the concept.

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Pick up the pace! Slow walkers four times more likely to die from COVID-19, study finds [View all] Klaralven Mar 2021 OP

My friend's brother-in-law - a daily runner aged 50 just died of Covid womanofthehills Mar 2021 #1

It's really unpredictable - Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #9

diabetes for sure is a serious comorbidity nt Celerity Mar 2021 #14

But I come from a very long line of diabetes - Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #18

You are working in a reverse fashion from what I was, I meant that the odds are pretty high Celerity Mar 2021 #20

I am intentionally working in the reverse fashion. Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #22

that has no logical bearing on my scientific point I made, and it is not prejudice Celerity Mar 2021 #26

Only about 30% of obese people have type 2 diabetes Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #27

Now you literally misquoted me Celerity Mar 2021 #28

No. I literally (as in copy/paste) quoted you. Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #29

you are playing cleverclogs games with my statement Celerity Mar 2021 #30

I'm not playing games at all. Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #31

you left out parts, and then made incorrect claims based off that Celerity Mar 2021 #32

30% is not "pretty high odds" so it was not accurate as a whole. Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #33

You keep leaving out the 2nd part. Celerity Mar 2021 #34

Just what we need... SergeStorms Mar 2021 #2

How slow is slow walking vs. fast walking? Ocelot II Mar 2021 #3

Misleading! There is no indication at the linked site that this study ascertained spooky3 Mar 2021 #4

Thank you! nocoincidences Mar 2021 #5

LOL! :-) spooky3 Mar 2021 #7

Exactly. Mr.Bill Mar 2021 #37

Full of confounding. Slow walkers also include those with osteoarthritis that also affects the young hlthe2b Mar 2021 #6

The study has references about walking pace being a good proxy for fitness muriel_volestrangler Mar 2021 #10

It is a confounded measure. BMI is an imperfect proxy for obesity (the extremely muscular hlthe2b Mar 2021 #11

No, that's really a ridiculous comparison - "along the lines of 'gambling causes cancer'" muriel_volestrangler Mar 2021 #12

It is the classic example used to teach those who do not understand the concept of confounding hlthe2b Mar 2021 #39

You are ignoring that brisk walking is an indicator of basic fitness muriel_volestrangler Mar 2021 #40

It is a confounded proxy, inadequate without including additional variables to adjust for their . hlthe2b Mar 2021 #41

Exactly. n/t pnwmom Mar 2021 #38

I go for a 35-40 minute walk just about every day Elwood P Dowd Mar 2021 #8

"Brisk" was defined as over 4mph, slow under 3 muriel_volestrangler Mar 2021 #13

In shape people Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #15

Agree! Karma13612 Mar 2021 #16

Public transportation Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #17

+1000 no question about it! ..nt Karma13612 Mar 2021 #23

+1000 llmart Mar 2021 #24

Good for you Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #25

+100000 Celerity Mar 2021 #36

Great post. Celerity Mar 2021 #35

Thanks, another point people miss Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #42

I "banked" my bone strength doing Jazzercise 3x per week for about 10 years. It has paid well. CTyankee Mar 2021 #19

Sounds like correlation rather than causation. MineralMan Mar 2021 #21

Slow walkers... seriously?!! ananda Mar 2021 #43

This makes me want to scream. milestogo Mar 2021 #44