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9. there is not ONE point that Romney made in that debate that he has been able to capitalize on
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:12 AM
Oct 2012

. . . without being challenged on the TRUTH of his statements and responses.

The Obama campaign is successfully doing what they intended from the start; to define Romney and his proposals as a farce. THAT's the narrative that emerged from the debate; albeit, alongside a predictable tearing down of our Democratic President. The unprecedented speed in which the Obama campaign has defined their republican rival as out-of-touch and elitist was successfully reinforced in that debate by the PRESS' own judgment; not by some charge hurled by the Democratic opponent. That universal judgment by the majority of the press about the veracity of Romney's claims and charges has been successfully echoed and met by the Obama campaign with a media-encouraged platform now to challenge the republican ticket on things like the utter lack of details on the most important planks of their agenda -- on issues from taxes; to Medicare and other health care related initiatives of theirs; to military and foreign affairs . . .

Did you miss that quite a few of those challenges to the Romney agenda came from the media moderator? There is no more credible and effective way to confront Romney's lies than to push our points behind a chorus of questions from independent media sources. It's just not the disaster that folks have been moaning about, for Barack Obama to have used most of his response time to talk about where he stood and how he viewed reality; instead of following Romney's distracting lead and pulling him off of his own subject lines and his own message.

He lost NOTHING in that debate. True, the President has suffered from the focus of the media on entertainment; and their obsession with cosmetics; but, he's did nothing to deserve the rewarding of the Romney camp with Democratic critic's acquiescence to the fool's game of judging the debate on performance; rather than on the substance of what was actually said. Romney's lies shouldn't count for legitimate answers. They should have disqualified him from any 'win.' That's the level of corruption that folks dwelling on performance and style are allying with to declare President Obama a 'loser' in that debate. It doesn't matter how many theater viewers you can get to agree with you.

If you look at the MSNBC homepage right now Nevernose Oct 2012 #1
Last night, David Gergen (CNN) stated that "Ryan won on style." CrispyQ Oct 2012 #3
they said romney won on style. lets see, be aggressive and lie. style. mellow and lie, style. seabeyond Oct 2012 #7
This is how shallow our culture has become - you can win a debate on style. CrispyQ Oct 2012 #11
WTF? treestar Oct 2012 #15
yup. repugs immediately started putting out the fire. we blew on the flames and fanned them seabeyond Oct 2012 #2
OMG THANK YOU BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #4
this is why it's all the more important for us to be honest with ourselves DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2012 #5
there is not ONE point that Romney made in that debate that he has been able to capitalize on bigtree Oct 2012 #9
It's not that I disagree with most of what you say here Time for change Oct 2012 #16
I do think there's value in confronting the opponent's lies during a debate bigtree Oct 2012 #17
I agree with you that much more credence should be given to substance than posture Time for change Oct 2012 #18
Romney was full of lies. On that we agree. But Obama lost ground where it mattered DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2012 #19
Nate Silver bigtree Oct 2012 #20
It's a game of slim margins DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2012 #21
We DID get credit for last night's debate. Not as much as we should have. randome Oct 2012 #6
The MSM doesn't realize it, but their duplicity in reporting about these debates is MADem Oct 2012 #8
Interesting analogy. I think you're right. The old ways are slowly dying out. randome Oct 2012 #13
'Style' is the new 'lies'. HappyMe Oct 2012 #10
. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #12
I am convinced this is why Americans don't have Health Care Whisp Oct 2012 #14
There is a bias. That's why we always have to be on our game, at least 10 times better ecstatic Oct 2012 #22
. bigtree Oct 2012 #23
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