These conservative Dems are the worst, and deserve pushback, (Reply #42)

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Fri Mar 5, 2021, 07:59 PM

radius777 (3,406 posts)

42. These conservative Dems are the worst, and deserve pushback,

as we're in a pandemic and people need help. If Dems won't help people, who will? There's nobody more establishment than Biden - why can't they just trust that he knows what he's doing? It's not just about the minimum wage, they keep trying to nitpick and reduce everything that 'regular people' need (eligibilty thresholds for the stimulus check, unemployment assistance/duration). This is not about voters (most of whom want help) in their states, but about pleasing donors and big money interests.

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48 replies	Author	Time	Post
So let me get this straight [View all]	jorgevlorgan	Mar 2021	OP
Yep. That's about the size of it. n/t	Laelth	Mar 2021	#1
You have already gotten it straight.	dchill	Mar 2021	#2
That is indeed correct. They care more for traditions and bipartisanship than poor people.	Autumn	Mar 2021	#3
Nonsense.	NurseJackie	Mar 2021	#21
Bullshit, you know damn good and well that the wage increase will never make it on a	Autumn	Mar 2021	#32
There's a lot of work ahead. That's what politics is about. Making deals, finding common ground...	NurseJackie	Mar 2021	#34
As a stand alone it will never get past a filibuster. You can carry water for it Jackie I won't.	Autumn	Mar 2021	#37
Instead of shitting all over our Democrats, why not work to elect more?	NurseJackie	Mar 2021	#38
These conservative Dems are the worst, and deserve pushback,	radius777	Mar 2021	#42
That's not "pushback" ... that's shitting on Democrats and it only helps the GOP.	NurseJackie	Mar 2021	#44
Nothing stopping us from doing both.	radius777	Mar 2021	#45
One helps. The other hurts.	NurseJackie	Mar 2021	#47
I truly don't believe moderate Dems exist. They are mislabeled, methinks	NewHendoLib	Mar 2021	#4
Agree.	sop	Mar 2021	#5
My mom called herself a moderate Dem. I always told her no, she was a moderate republican.	Autumn	Mar 2021	#6
Abigail Spanberger	underpants	Mar 2021	#7
I'm a moderate Democrat.	NurseJackie	Mar 2021	#35
It doesn't appear to be a big issue for us as only two states are going to $15 an hour	Kaleva	Mar 2021	#8
Politically, yes. Practically and existentially, no.	jorgevlorgan	Mar 2021	#9
Are Dems in your state pissed?	Kaleva	Mar 2021	#10
I know a few yea.	jorgevlorgan	Mar 2021	#13
And polls don't show how strongly the respondent feels on the issue.	Kaleva	Mar 2021	#15
There's much effort	jorgevlorgan	Mar 2021	#17
then 15 ought not to be a problem	Kaleva	Mar 2021	#18
Only if blue states were the only ones that mattered.	jorgevlorgan	Mar 2021	#27
And many Red state have low costs of living.	Kaleva	Mar 2021	#31
Low cost of living increases their level of disposable income that resonates throughout the rest of	jorgevlorgan	Mar 2021	#40
I easily get by on the equivalent of $7.78 an hour.	Kaleva	Mar 2021	#41
My Social Security plus VA disability comes to $31.66 an hour.	marie999	Mar 2021	#43
...thus giving more people work, stimulating the tourism economy	jorgevlorgan	Mar 2021	#46
Illinois passed it. It was one of Pritzker's first accomplishments	Arazi	Mar 2021	#12
That's great!	Kaleva	Mar 2021	#14
Most dem states have it pretty close to 15 if not 15	jorgevlorgan	Mar 2021	#16
I think Washington and Oregon have done it.	Mr.Bill	Mar 2021	#22
depending on some circumstances, a person could live ok where I live on less then $15	Kaleva	Mar 2021	#28
How much do you pay for medical insurance? How much for child care?	myccrider	Mar 2021	#48
Yeah...apparently	Bettie	Mar 2021	#11
They voted that the amendment does not belong in the reconciliation bill...	NurseJackie	Mar 2021	#20
A stand alone bill will be fillbustered which means	Bettie	Mar 2021	#24
Trying to break the rules and sneak it in the "back door" like this would...	NurseJackie	Mar 2021	#33
The procedural issue is an excuse, in my opinion.	jorgevlorgan	Mar 2021	#23
I tend to agree	Bettie	Mar 2021	#25
They can do better. They know they can do better.	jorgevlorgan	Mar 2021	#26
Reconciliation dooms HR1 or sends it to the courts... delaying Covid relief for MONTHS!	NurseJackie	Mar 2021	#39
That's a ridiculous interpretation. It's insulting.	NurseJackie	Mar 2021	#19
I'm not sure why we're calling that "moderate". It's categorically "regressive"	Bucky	Mar 2021	#29
"It's pro-poverty." --- ROFL! (No it's not.)	NurseJackie	Mar 2021	#36
Weird, isn't it...	Wounded Bear	Mar 2021	#30

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