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tritsofme

(17,323 posts)
108. Math is math.
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 02:13 AM
Mar 2021

“Trying harder” doesn’t change the math. It’s unlikely any other nominee gets derailed, which would make Biden’s record better than most modern presidents.

Post removed Post removed Mar 2021 #1
Manchin was not the only one. Sanders started it with his scold and demand for apology. LizBeth Mar 2021 #4
Manchin lead the charge on the dem side jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #7
Sanders started the charge on the Dems side at the committee hearing. LizBeth Mar 2021 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #10
it's not as though the tweets weren't going to come up at the hearing w/o Sanders mentioning them fishwax Mar 2021 #15
Looking over those glasses, and scolding her. Yes, he could have said any number of things to LizBeth Mar 2021 #18
I don't see anything wrong with him addressing the tweets fishwax Mar 2021 #20
Right, he was simply the victim. There was no "two sides of the story" in this scenario, for sure. LizBeth Mar 2021 #23
he wasn't the one intervjewing for a job fishwax Mar 2021 #48
Yes, I found it offensive once again as I watched that finger wagged at a woman demanding apology. LizBeth Mar 2021 #49
Brava! We know whaat happened.. Cha Mar 2021 #85
Sanders would have voted for her, because he supports Biden. Manchin would never vote for her. Autumn Mar 2021 #16
I do not know that to be true. Regardless, he started the tone. LizBeth Mar 2021 #19
Regardless, Bernie supports the Democratic agenda that Biden wants. Manchin is kneecapping him. Autumn Mar 2021 #24
Sanders was the very one that kneecapped Tanden. Manchin just kicked her while she was down. LizBeth Mar 2021 #27
So? He still said he would vote for you. You can blame Manchin, who said he wouldn't vote for her. Autumn Mar 2021 #33
So? Ya right LizBeth Mar 2021 #35
I don't think he did say he would vote for her dsc Mar 2021 #71
From the article rogue emissary Mar 2021 #117
From another article Autumn Mar 2021 #129
"would have been" rogue emissary Mar 2021 #139
"she dropped out". Know who else didn't officially endorse her? Your Democrat, Joe Manchin. Autumn Mar 2021 #164
You are wrong. White House sources said that Bernie said he would vote for her Autumn Mar 2021 #128
It was said after, though not by him publicly dsc Mar 2021 #130
Let it go. You're wrong. Bernie said he would vote for her, he supports Biden's agenda. Manchin Autumn Mar 2021 #133
No I am not wrong dsc Mar 2021 #136
HE doesn't have to say he would vote for her in public. HE TOLD THE WHITE HOUSE Autumn Mar 2021 #137
please stop lying about what I said dsc Mar 2021 #138
I NEVER SAID you said it was his job. You are accusing me of lying about what you posted. Autumn Mar 2021 #143
... jcgoldie Mar 2021 #132
Where in this article does it quote him or his staff on the record? rogue emissary Mar 2021 #141
Oh I see the game now jcgoldie Mar 2021 #149
Do you mean the game where you can't quote him or his staff saying he'd vote for her? rogue emissary Mar 2021 #151
No jcgoldie Mar 2021 #152
Let me be clear, I blame them both for tanking Tanden's nomination. rogue emissary Mar 2021 #158
"people were lying" jcgoldie Mar 2021 #160
Yes, that includes their trash article which is more click bait than an article. rogue emissary Mar 2021 #162
Bullshit jcgoldie Mar 2021 #168
+1. It truly amazes me the insistence to vilify Manchin and the exoneration or Sanders. It is what LizBeth Mar 2021 #153
Exactly, they both held Tanden to a level they didn't for many of Donny's nominees. rogue emissary Mar 2021 #159
Whats petty jcgoldie Mar 2021 #167
No one in the thread absolved Manchin's role except the people that want to wipe out Sanders role. LizBeth Mar 2021 #170
I posted that link. But Bernie never said it PUBLICLY. Autumn Mar 2021 #144
Kind of ironic the "real democrat" Manchin harpooned her nomination. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2021 #42
Sanders harpooned it, Manchin joined in. LizBeth Mar 2021 #45
Exactly, and they know that. Nixie Mar 2021 #52
+1 LizBeth Mar 2021 #57
The man as chairman made it about mean tweets instead of issues JI7 Mar 2021 #73
This. He started the ball rolling then sit back and let others do. Now we see his signature is not LizBeth Mar 2021 #76
Yes, and it was a pathetic display Nixie Mar 2021 #147
Post removed Post removed Mar 2021 #56
A friend said this morning, razor thin margins in the senate means we need to be prepared to Autumn Mar 2021 #127
First of all, as pointed out below, you're not correct. But, how is this different Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2021 #134
Yep. seaglass Mar 2021 #31
+1. Thank you LizBeth Mar 2021 #36
Why would he vote for her if Manchin and no Republicans would cross over to vote for her? Autumn Mar 2021 #37
Make up your mind. You just posted that he would have voted for her. seaglass Mar 2021 #38
Which part of Manchin said he would not vote for her, Republicans would not cross over to vote for Autumn Mar 2021 #44
He should have announced she was withdrawing her nomination and there would be no vote? Or lied? Autumn Mar 2021 #51
The last I saw he refused to say if he'd vote for her. rogue emissary Mar 2021 #113
Right. Thank you. LizBeth Mar 2021 #115
He said it was true jcgoldie Mar 2021 #131
Depressing. n/t Laelth Mar 2021 #2
According to CNN she requested that her name be withdrawn. Still depressing. marmar Mar 2021 #3
Boiler Print. mobeau69 Mar 2021 #28
Neera Tanden's Exit brought to you by the following white men liskddksil Mar 2021 #5
Sanders was first to step up and call out her out with his scold. Why are we forgetting Sanders LizBeth Mar 2021 #6
Because Sanders would have voted for her and didn't cost us vital Senate races nt liskddksil Mar 2021 #8
This. marmar Mar 2021 #11
+10,000 jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #14
Glad he would have voted for her, but he didn't need to say anything kcr Mar 2021 #26
Really? He didn't seem as sure as you are. seaglass Mar 2021 #32
Sanders' part in a lot of things is forgotten Skittles Mar 2021 #54
Yes. LizBeth Mar 2021 #58
+ JI7 Mar 2021 #82
Always find a way to blame Bernie wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #70
Sanders was the first to scold a grown woman on being mean to him, on record. LizBeth Mar 2021 #72
Sanders didn't out and out announce he won't vote for her wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #77
That's the line you are standing on? LizBeth Mar 2021 #78
Why are you caping for Manchin anyway? wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #79
All about gaslighting. Pretending Sanders didn't start it all and certainly had his part in this and LizBeth Mar 2021 #80
This is about Manchin, not Sanders wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #81
Tou totally misread the poster.. she Cha Mar 2021 #86
The poster was clearly trying to deflect blame from Manchin to Sanders wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #87
Blame Manchin. Sanders started it and he gets equal blame. This is not a tough one. LizBeth Mar 2021 #89
Don't bothsides this wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #92
I am on Tanden side. I do not know why you do not get that. LizBeth Mar 2021 #94
Then aim your vitriol at Manchin wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #96
I disagree with you as I have argued thru out this thread. LizBeth Mar 2021 #98
Sounds like you just want an excuse to dump on Bernie wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #101
Poor picked on Sanders defending himself to the point of scolding a woman on record because she LizBeth Mar 2021 #102
Tanden is mature enough to own those tweets and apologize for them wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #105
Like I said.. she is giving the timeline of Cha Mar 2021 #106
No.. she was Clearly Not "trying to Cover Cha Mar 2021 #104
Well, Tanden certainly had a reason to apologize. Sanders was scolding her on record at the LizBeth Mar 2021 #109
Yes, for the reason you stated.. but Cha Mar 2021 #122
But she did apologize for her tweets wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #110
He was holding the job over her head. Are you for real? Damn this would not be the hill I stood on. LizBeth Mar 2021 #111
You're on the hill of blaming Bernie or bust wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #114
I am calling out Sanders actions that were in part to the ousting of Tanden that I found to be very LizBeth Mar 2021 #116
Tanden put herself in that position with her tweets wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #119
Exactly.. like I said Cha Mar 2021 #124
Yes, I read she "apologized".. she was left with Cha Mar 2021 #123
You're okay with people insinuating that Democrats and allies wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #145
Not only did Sanders own it, he then blamed HRC for not addressing it. A pattern. LizBeth Mar 2021 #146
Reverse it. If Sanders had tweeted about Tanden what she did Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2021 #135
Let's be honest. These people love exacting political revenge for anyone who said anything... Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2021 #142
Here's the thing about being a grownup. You have to conduct yourself as one on social media. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2021 #148
Here is something else about being a grown up. Recognizing and acknowledging the different standards LizBeth Mar 2021 #154
Remember when AOC got her Covid vaccination? That was epic too. Autumn Mar 2021 #165
Agreed - it's like people think people should have their cake and eat it too - get plaudits for Midwestern Democrat Mar 2021 #171
VERY much deserved Skittles Mar 2021 #83
Tanden did herself no favors with the Bernie mean tweets wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #84
Now you acknowledge Sanders part in ousting Tanden then blame Tanden. Just like LizBeth Mar 2021 #88
Bernie had every right to address the mean tweet wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #90
Again you acknowledge Sanders scolding and are good with it. I am not. LizBeth Mar 2021 #95
Yes, nobody can say anything about her mean tweets wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #99
Yes Sanders wagged the finger scolding her and giving her a stern look over his glasses eliciting LizBeth Mar 2021 #107
Tanden put herself in that position wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #112
That tweet is factual and not mean at all. radius777 Mar 2021 #91
Tanden suggested that Bernie got foreign help wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #93
But our intelligence agencies suggested that Bernie's movement radius777 Mar 2021 #103
Exactly.. it was well documented .. it can't be Cha Mar 2021 #125
Yes, exactly. And why I refuse to just walk on by. Yes. You said it well. LizBeth Mar 2021 #97
I know.. it's Horrible. No need to Cha Mar 2021 #120
yes, telling the truth is not always a great idea Skittles Mar 2021 #163
Sanders would have voted for her BradAllison Mar 2021 #150
Sanders issue was certainly personal also. He brought it to the forefront in a committee hearing LizBeth Mar 2021 #155
But it was Joey Boy's deal breaker. BradAllison Mar 2021 #156
I have not minimized Manchin's participation in sabotaging Tanden. I refuse to ignore Sanders LizBeth Mar 2021 #157
Bloomberg had nothing to do with Toomey winning Deminpenn Mar 2021 #47
: onecaliberal Mar 2021 #12
If this were to become a standard going forward, that would be one thing dsc Mar 2021 #13
+1 LizBeth Mar 2021 #21
They are considered uppity women and should know their place. sheshe2 Mar 2021 #34
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2021 #60
Yup, did those who scolded her for tweets say anything about Josh Hawley ? JI7 Mar 2021 #75
Yes, this is pretty depressing. Sucks to be a woman. Men are not held to the same Biophilic Mar 2021 #17
one word bdamomma Mar 2021 #22
That won't be a problem. nt mobeau69 Mar 2021 #30
Biden & Team will pick a highly qualified alternative. Kaleva Mar 2021 #25
Agree. Hortensis Mar 2021 #40
Sounds like Biden will find a non-confirmation position for her. BlueCheeseAgain Mar 2021 #29
Welcome to DU! bdamomma Mar 2021 #41
Yes, and oh yes. It could be noted I suppose that Sanders Hortensis Mar 2021 #46
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2021 #61
Welcome to our DU family. niyad Mar 2021 #66
There are a whole lot of fragile, easily bruised egos in the senate. BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #39
Yup, bitterness over multiple losses which they claim were rigged JI7 Mar 2021 #74
Yeah, they think their Cha Mar 2021 #121
I thought Presidents had an absolute right to appoint their own people? gratuitous Mar 2021 #43
It should be that way Nasruddin Mar 2021 #59
They do, the advise and consent doesn't extend to blocking. Same with SC justices ... uponit7771 Mar 2021 #62
She'll be fine Deminpenn Mar 2021 #50
Damn!!! I love her laugh, wit and experience. BigmanPigman Mar 2021 #53
I understand why Neera Tanden withdrew, but it's a shame a competent/experienced person couldn't iluvtennis Mar 2021 #55
Too bad. She was great. I guess different standards apply to us. mahina Mar 2021 #63
After 4 years of the garbage mouth "insulting Insult"....? Hulk Mar 2021 #64
Well... that didnt take long quakerboy Mar 2021 #65
This is sad. But she will land on her feet. PatrickforB Mar 2021 #67
I still think she was the sacrificial lamb. Calista241 Mar 2021 #68
If we keep folding without a fight they will challenge every nominee until we fold. usaf-vet Mar 2021 #69
Math is math. tritsofme Mar 2021 #108
Sure, it's the middle aged brown woman responsible for the toxic online culture. radius777 Mar 2021 #100
+1 LizBeth Mar 2021 #118
You are confusing supporters with the Principal Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2021 #140
Yeah, "let's blame it on Neera Tanden".. that should Cha Mar 2021 #161
Well known? AZProgressive Mar 2021 #166
Yes I saw it with my OWN EYES.. nobody Cha Mar 2021 #169
What will Tanden's new position in the Biden admin be? Hortensis Mar 2021 #126
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