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Wanderlust988

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28. It would be ruinous if the whole thing collapses

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 11:37 PM

Feb 2021

Why would voters flood the polls in 2022 if they feel like Dems aren't getting anything done? It would dampen our base. It's quite possible we lose the House next year. I'd rather take the $11 than let everything fall apart and don't get anything done for years and years again.

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Manchin: Even if the parliamentarian says wage hike ok w/ rules of reconciliation, I want 11, not 15 [View all] Celerity Feb 2021 OP

I don't get it. It doesn't go up to $15 right away. Does it? Walleye Feb 2021 #1

It is staggered out over 5 years so 2025/26 or so before the full 15 usd kicks in. Manchin is Celerity Feb 2021 #6

It is indexed to inflation so it wouldn't stop at $11 dsc Feb 2021 #14

Any state can pass its own Min. Wage at any amount it desires now. MichMan Feb 2021 #20

No state has reached $15/hr yet FBaggins Feb 2021 #34

Some cities have, but my point still stands MichMan Feb 2021 #40

No. States can go over the federal minimum but never under. former9thward Feb 2021 #45

No. former9thward Feb 2021 #46

No one is talking about lowering it. MichMan Feb 2021 #48

Except several posters have in this thread. former9thward Feb 2021 #50

Only if it gets raised to $11 and the other 49 states individually pass it at $15 MichMan Feb 2021 #51

Let us see. Assuming that Joe works 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, he still makes over 20 niyad Feb 2021 #2

Sinema of Arizona is on my watch list. chocolatpi Feb 2021 #3

Mark Kelly has none of these problems BradAllison Feb 2021 #29

Crazy trivia fact. IF Kelly were to lose (dog forbid) in 2022, then that seat, in only 53 months or Celerity Feb 2021 #33

I want manchin to take that 11.00/hr and live on only it for the next 6 years. bullimiami Feb 2021 #4

Yes! Deuxcents Feb 2021 #8

His constituents sure as hell want $15 Claire Oh Nette Feb 2021 #30

Can senators propose amendments that apply only to some states? ramblin_dave Feb 2021 #5

I will admit that is beyond my knowledge. But he would be crazy to do that, as people on the VA/WV Celerity Feb 2021 #7

Please explain Bonkers in this case...would the W. Va'ers be rushing over to get a job in Va? rgbecker Feb 2021 #17

Bonkers as in raging, if a WV worker is making 8K usd per annum less than someone 100 kms Celerity Feb 2021 #22

along both borders Claire Oh Nette Feb 2021 #31

I did not intend to imply it was only people on the border, just using it as an example Celerity Feb 2021 #32

He's basing it on cost of living in West Virginia FakeNoose Feb 2021 #23

Except any state can pass its own min. wage at whatever it desires. MichMan Feb 2021 #25

True. In fact, $15 in NY City is joke. Same in San Francisco. $15 anywhere in Mississippi.... machoneman Feb 2021 #36

Remember the Cornhusker Kickback? Shrek Feb 2021 #37

No. It is unconstitutional. former9thward Feb 2021 #49

Force a floor vote, force Manchin to choose to support Biden or kill the bill. Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #9

I'm tired of hearing of his better ideas, Corgigal Feb 2021 #10

And this is a winning stance with WV voters? Generic Brad Feb 2021 #11

Ok. Try this. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2021 #12

Philosophical question here... moose65 Feb 2021 #13

The cascading effects from a cave-in will be systemically ruinous. Most every Dem, including Celerity Feb 2021 #15

But what if he doesn't cave? moose65 Feb 2021 #19

Long term, no, I do not think so. Celerity Feb 2021 #26

It would be ruinous if the whole thing collapses Wanderlust988 Feb 2021 #28

Joe makes too much money, what $187.000 per year, he is so out of touch RANDYWILDMAN Feb 2021 #16

I think he thinks he's protecting small businesses Bucky Feb 2021 #18

So he's looking for a compromise in the $13 range... Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #21

No, he said 11 usd IS his compromise. I do not think he supports a raise at all, or maybe a token Celerity Feb 2021 #27

Biden ran on a broad-based liberal agenda and won 81m votes. radius777 Feb 2021 #24

Best thing is to make sure that Dems get AT LEAST an extra Senate seat in 22. Until then you deal OnDoutside Feb 2021 #39

You know, that's a good idea moose65 Feb 2021 #41

I'd let him own the $11, leave it at $11 for WV only and all the other states stay with the $15 plan OnDoutside Feb 2021 #43

I don't think that's possible moose65 Feb 2021 #53

Can they make an exception for West Virginia ? JI7 Feb 2021 #35

That's my thought as well. If he wants to screw over the working poor of WV, and thinks that he will OnDoutside Feb 2021 #38

He's not up for re-election till 2024 moose65 Feb 2021 #42

+1 dalton99a Feb 2021 #44

I see this is great news! Johnny2X2X Feb 2021 #47

My H thinks Raftergirl Feb 2021 #52