Biden ran on a broad-based liberal agenda and won 81m votes. (Reply #24)

In the discussion thread: Manchin: Even if the parliamentarian says wage hike ok w/ rules of reconciliation, I want 11, not 15 [View all]

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Tue Feb 23, 2021, 10:41 PM

radius777 (3,406 posts)

24. Biden ran on a broad-based liberal agenda and won 81m votes.

Nobody voted for Manchin to control the agenda... this is why our system is so fucked up.

Time to send Kamala back into the state.. even the WV governor said he wants to 'go big' and supports Biden's stimulus as is (iirc).

We need to light stronger fires under the asses of these conservative Dems. Let the mayors, governors and residents of their states know that it is their senators standing in the way of desperately needed relief.

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53 replies	Author	Time	Post
Manchin: Even if the parliamentarian says wage hike ok w/ rules of reconciliation, I want 11, not 15 [View all]	Celerity	Feb 2021	OP
I don't get it. It doesn't go up to $15 right away. Does it?	Walleye	Feb 2021	#1
It is staggered out over 5 years so 2025/26 or so before the full 15 usd kicks in. Manchin is	Celerity	Feb 2021	#6
It is indexed to inflation so it wouldn't stop at $11	dsc	Feb 2021	#14
Any state can pass its own Min. Wage at any amount it desires now.	MichMan	Feb 2021	#20
No state has reached $15/hr yet	FBaggins	Feb 2021	#34
Some cities have, but my point still stands	MichMan	Feb 2021	#40
No. States can go over the federal minimum but never under.	former9thward	Feb 2021	#45
No.	former9thward	Feb 2021	#46
No one is talking about lowering it.	MichMan	Feb 2021	#48
Except several posters have in this thread.	former9thward	Feb 2021	#50
Only if it gets raised to $11 and the other 49 states individually pass it at $15	MichMan	Feb 2021	#51
Let us see. Assuming that Joe works 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, he still makes over 20	niyad	Feb 2021	#2
Sinema of Arizona is on my watch list.	chocolatpi	Feb 2021	#3
Mark Kelly has none of these problems	BradAllison	Feb 2021	#29
Crazy trivia fact. IF Kelly were to lose (dog forbid) in 2022, then that seat, in only 53 months or	Celerity	Feb 2021	#33
I want manchin to take that 11.00/hr and live on only it for the next 6 years.	bullimiami	Feb 2021	#4
Yes!	Deuxcents	Feb 2021	#8
His constituents sure as hell want $15	Claire Oh Nette	Feb 2021	#30
Can senators propose amendments that apply only to some states?	ramblin_dave	Feb 2021	#5
I will admit that is beyond my knowledge. But he would be crazy to do that, as people on the VA/WV	Celerity	Feb 2021	#7
Please explain Bonkers in this case...would the W. Va'ers be rushing over to get a job in Va?	rgbecker	Feb 2021	#17
Bonkers as in raging, if a WV worker is making 8K usd per annum less than someone 100 kms	Celerity	Feb 2021	#22
along both borders	Claire Oh Nette	Feb 2021	#31
I did not intend to imply it was only people on the border, just using it as an example	Celerity	Feb 2021	#32
He's basing it on cost of living in West Virginia	FakeNoose	Feb 2021	#23
Except any state can pass its own min. wage at whatever it desires.	MichMan	Feb 2021	#25
True. In fact, $15 in NY City is joke. Same in San Francisco. $15 anywhere in Mississippi....	machoneman	Feb 2021	#36
Remember the Cornhusker Kickback?	Shrek	Feb 2021	#37
No. It is unconstitutional.	former9thward	Feb 2021	#49
Force a floor vote, force Manchin to choose to support Biden or kill the bill.	Fiendish Thingy	Feb 2021	#9
I'm tired of hearing of his better ideas,	Corgigal	Feb 2021	#10
And this is a winning stance with WV voters?	Generic Brad	Feb 2021	#11
Ok. Try this.	PoindexterOglethorpe	Feb 2021	#12
Philosophical question here...	moose65	Feb 2021	#13
The cascading effects from a cave-in will be systemically ruinous. Most every Dem, including	Celerity	Feb 2021	#15
But what if he doesn't cave?	moose65	Feb 2021	#19
Long term, no, I do not think so.	Celerity	Feb 2021	#26
It would be ruinous if the whole thing collapses	Wanderlust988	Feb 2021	#28
Joe makes too much money, what $187.000 per year, he is so out of touch	RANDYWILDMAN	Feb 2021	#16
I think he thinks he's protecting small businesses	Bucky	Feb 2021	#18
So he's looking for a compromise in the $13 range...	Wounded Bear	Feb 2021	#21
No, he said 11 usd IS his compromise. I do not think he supports a raise at all, or maybe a token	Celerity	Feb 2021	#27
Biden ran on a broad-based liberal agenda and won 81m votes.	radius777	Feb 2021	#24
Best thing is to make sure that Dems get AT LEAST an extra Senate seat in 22. Until then you deal	OnDoutside	Feb 2021	#39
You know, that's a good idea	moose65	Feb 2021	#41
I'd let him own the $11, leave it at $11 for WV only and all the other states stay with the $15 plan	OnDoutside	Feb 2021	#43
I don't think that's possible	moose65	Feb 2021	#53
Can they make an exception for West Virginia ?	JI7	Feb 2021	#35
That's my thought as well. If he wants to screw over the working poor of WV, and thinks that he will	OnDoutside	Feb 2021	#38
He's not up for re-election till 2024	moose65	Feb 2021	#42
+1	dalton99a	Feb 2021	#44
I see this is great news!	Johnny2X2X	Feb 2021	#47
My H thinks	Raftergirl	Feb 2021	#52

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