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H2O Man

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Tue Feb 9, 2021, 11:00 PM

Feb 2021

I heard that among changes they made in the break -- which included changing the order they would take -- was to allow Shoen time to remove jabs that he had originally planned to aim at Rep. Jamie Raskin. They had planned to try to focus on him as representing the "radical left."

Note: As an aging member of the radical left in the Democratic Party, I can say that Rep. Raskin absolutely represents me.

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Trump's lawyers are panicked. [View all] Laelth Feb 2021 OP

The check bounce? dflprincess Feb 2021 #1

They gotta know they are working pro bono. Unfortunately, they also probably know all they have... dutch777 Feb 2021 #10

Actually, about the only thing they didn't babble was that he was not guilty... Mazeltov Cocktail Feb 2021 #14

Pro Bonehead. KentuckyWoman Feb 2021 #79

+1 n/t Laelth Feb 2021 #80

they are panicing azureblue Feb 2021 #109

Ooh! leftieNanner Feb 2021 #2

is that bdamomma Feb 2021 #11

They've show terrible judgement in their client, I don't pity them PirateRo Feb 2021 #3

appreciate the informed insight. I am missing it all 'cause I'm at work... pnwest Feb 2021 #4

Yeah. My sympathy for them is very limited. n/t Laelth Feb 2021 #31

Some of the pundits on TV are saying they acted like they knew the jury was in their Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #5

Is that bdamomma Feb 2021 #15

Stacked jury? Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #18

Without a doubt. GP6971 Feb 2021 #78

don't forget that PIG Rand Paul. He is horrible trueblue2007 Feb 2021 #108

Probably true. Nothing for them to lose, wnylib Feb 2021 #68

Yep, no need to do any heavy lifting. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #72

The jury is in their pocket. Hoyt Feb 2021 #6

that's true Alpeduez21 Feb 2021 #8

Exactly ailsagirl Feb 2021 #49

additionally, their client wants the argument Alpeduez21 Feb 2021 #7

One attorney was so nervous when he spoke BigmanPigman Feb 2021 #9

Honest to goodness, I have been there. Laelth Feb 2021 #25

I was afraid to speak in public until I became BigmanPigman Feb 2021 #30

being a teacher made me a pretty good public speaker dsc Feb 2021 #51

Do they really expect to get paid? lpbk2713 Feb 2021 #12

Clarify the issue you mentioned... FarPoint Feb 2021 #13

The question of whether the trial was constitutional was voted on separately from the actual trial; tblue37 Feb 2021 #20

Ahhhhhhh now I get it... FarPoint Feb 2021 #22

Yes. Leader Schumer played this brilliantly. n/t Laelth Feb 2021 #26

I am impressed! FarPoint Feb 2021 #28

Split the case into 2 questions...constitutionality and merit. theneworiginal Feb 2021 #27

Everyone knew this was coming, except them apparently. chriscan64 Feb 2021 #87

They actually thought that the House would vote "yes it's unconstitutional, let's all go home?" Maraya1969 Feb 2021 #16

Without the (allegedly) impossible Georgia runoffs, the Senate would have done so. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #101

I agree. Jirel Feb 2021 #17

Doesn't matter. Even if there were no rebuttal case or attorneys at all, acquittal is still insured. PSPS Feb 2021 #19

As it always is. As it always is. Some group controls the majority via power and fear. erronis Feb 2021 #45

Fire them hahaha !!! Wash. state Desk Jet Feb 2021 #21

Thank you for the experienced perspective underpants Feb 2021 #23

No. The "constitutionality" vote is unprecedented, afaik. Laelth Feb 2021 #37

A question: Do the rethugs who voted against the constitutionality MyMission Feb 2021 #73

Many of them, I suspect, will STILL vote to acquit on "unconstitutionality." Laelth Feb 2021 #76

Understandable gratuitous Feb 2021 #24

LOL. Yeah, who woulda thunk it? n/t Laelth Feb 2021 #40

I'm expecting... Xolodno Feb 2021 #29

I don't understand why it was a surprise. The moonscape Feb 2021 #32

You foresaw the Democrats' strategy--attorney or no. Laelth Feb 2021 #41

I just love seeing the rug pulled out from under them this way. crickets Feb 2021 #58

Yeah, well. DU rocks. Laelth Feb 2021 #61

Why would they panic? Bettie Feb 2021 #33

They don't want to be embarrassed on national television. Laelth Feb 2021 #70

Yeah, I suppose this makes them look like total idiots Bettie Feb 2021 #88

LOL. Yes. It does. n/t Laelth Feb 2021 #90

intentionally lame, so as to blame the short process? Then on to SCOTUS? If Chief Roberts wiggs Feb 2021 #34

That would be bizarre ... Laelth Feb 2021 #47

Roberts was already consulted on wnylib Feb 2021 #75

Did they get paid up front? keithbvadu2 Feb 2021 #35

Nah Johnny2X2X Feb 2021 #36

Are you sure? I heard that Hillary Clinton sent demons to burrow into their ears. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #38

Shame on you. Laelth Feb 2021 #92

It wasn't me! 4 Sleazors Lawtwisting, LLC hacked my account and posted that! Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #96

I am glad that you posted that. Laelth Feb 2021 #100

Tanks fer da insider info Laelth! Glamrock Feb 2021 #39

You're very welcome. n/t Laelth Feb 2021 #44

Maybe it's deliberate bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #42

Trump's got to blame somebody for everything that goes wrong. Laelth Feb 2021 #46

What, Me Worry? Skraxx Feb 2021 #43

As a trial attorney. I agree. I thought the same thing and have experienced not being totally Pepsidog Feb 2021 #48

It's utterly embarrassing, but yes. Laelth Feb 2021 #65

The Senate voted the trial constitutional, but GOPs will still acquit based on unconstitutionality Marcuse Feb 2021 #50

They could. I suspect many of them will. Laelth Feb 2021 #56

Does this mean that we should expect Matt Gaetz to burst through the door, donning his bullwinkle428 Feb 2021 #52

Bwaha! crickets Feb 2021 #59

While unlikely, anything is possible in Trumpworld. Laelth Feb 2021 #67

And despite all of this... ClusterFreak Feb 2021 #53

I don't get the panic - this isn't a criminal trial but a political one AlexSFCA Feb 2021 #54

Trump is vindictive. Laelth Feb 2021 #97

Makes a 'no' vote for conviction even harder for GOP senators who aren't insane. nt wiggs Feb 2021 #55

That's my take as well. n/t Laelth Feb 2021 #105

You cannot defend the smell that comes from a turd. Dan Feb 2021 #57

suffer long and hard. irisblue Feb 2021 #60

Womp womp. onecaliberal Feb 2021 #62

+1 n/t Laelth Feb 2021 #64

THEY decided to defend Trump. Kablooie Feb 2021 #63

I hear you. Laelth Feb 2021 #66

He had a team of lawyers who had time to develop a defense but drove them away. Kablooie Feb 2021 #69

The previous team wouldn't argue that Trump "won" the 2020 election. Laelth Feb 2021 #74

Will it make any difference? jalan48 Feb 2021 #71

It affects what the American people will see on TV. Laelth Feb 2021 #77

Well, I hope the media spends more time on Trump and less on his attorneys in this case. jalan48 Feb 2021 #94

We'll see. Laelth Feb 2021 #95

I hope it goes well for the Dems. I thought the video today was powerful. jalan48 Feb 2021 #98

Me too. n/t Laelth Feb 2021 #99

Love the commentary. Thank you so much! BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #81

You're quite welcome, and thank you. n/t Laelth Feb 2021 #93

Thank you for that excellent perspective that was easy for us non law types to grasp. Ligyron Feb 2021 #82

You're welcome. Laelth Feb 2021 #89

😁 underpants Feb 2021 #83

Returned home from work, having seen no news since early this morning... MerryBlooms Feb 2021 #84

If you think they're panicked what about donny doll hands? Will that clown Castor get fired tonight? George II Feb 2021 #85

Recommended. H2O Man Feb 2021 #86

As to Raskin, me too! n/t Laelth Feb 2021 #91

I'm proud to say that Raskin literally represents me! I live in his district and he's an absolute jpljr77 Feb 2021 #106

Nice! H2O Man Feb 2021 #107

No sleep for them tonight--which means another dismal, scrambling performance live love laugh Feb 2021 #102

I doubt that they will be able to sleep during the House's presentation. Laelth Feb 2021 #104

My fave part: them going: "And we plan to address all those other issues later, for realsies" Bucky Feb 2021 #103