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158. Well, there for a time I believed Romney was on track to alienate every demographic other

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #114)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 11:18 AM

Oct 2012

that white males over the age of 65. So it was that belief that caused me to hope for 1964-redux, even though I knew I was being wildly optimistic in so hoping.

Thanks for your statistical analysis. Helps to keep all of us anchored in reality

Definitely not panicking but this OP brought me down a lot. (Either the pre-debate numbers were wrong, the post-debate numbers are wrong or Americans as an electorate are so flaky that they deserve a shithead like Romney because they would let one debate cause them to change their votes.)

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The latest battleground state and national polls are in [View all] WilliamPitt Oct 2012 OP

Since Americans appear to be stupid enough to be convinced adigal Oct 2012 #1

Months of Romney blunders reversed by one night. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #2

were jjust looking for an excuse not to vote for Obama lunasun Oct 2012 #8

Exactly. renie408 Oct 2012 #75

Part of me feels the exact same way----- Grammy23 Oct 2012 #139

I swear to god, I literally got queasy when I checked RCP tonight and renie408 Oct 2012 #144

Before you soiled yourself, did you actually look at who conducted the polls? nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #155

Sometimes? cilla4progress Oct 2012 #151

I haven't heard much lately about what the President has done to save our economy? kentuck Oct 2012 #3

start with saving General Motors DonCoquixote Oct 2012 #113

President Obama saved the economy Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2012 #134

It does appear 4-5% have been swayed by ridiculous pro-Romney cheerleading in the media. reformist2 Oct 2012 #4

I would agree with you, but the president did not really defend his record. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #5

What record would that be... kentuck Oct 2012 #6

Word B2G Oct 2012 #9

well everybody's heard newblewtoo Oct 2012 #49

Gotta agree cilla4progress Oct 2012 #89

Well, Vermont is always talking about secession - adigal Oct 2012 #132

don't ever misunderestimate laruemtt Oct 2012 #122

Couldn't you qualify that to "the stupidity virgogal Oct 2012 #142

and an then analysis warrior1 Oct 2012 #7

Yep. And I think this tells us that a small but significant amount of the President's support cali Oct 2012 #10

Agreed. And if Biden blows it on Thursday B2G Oct 2012 #12

I doubt it... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #18

Yeah well, the conventional wisdom last week was that B2G Oct 2012 #25

The VP debate is being hyped ewagner Oct 2012 #56

Biden can handle it - he is an old pro at this adigal Oct 2012 #133

That's exactly what I've been saying. There was a part that was sqwishy Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2012 #152

You could have added Gallup, but that would have taken away from your point, right? Nt speedoo Oct 2012 #11

Gallup was posted 235 times here yeasterday WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #13

Yeah, the reality that you are selling sucks. speedoo Oct 2012 #24

No, drama-queen attitudes suck... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #27

And that's where I go all the time. GoneOffShore Oct 2012 #39

When do we show race tightening in New York and California? HockeyMom Oct 2012 #41

68 million is about 70% of the people that will vote. former9thward Oct 2012 #123

It also doesn't count laundry_queen Oct 2012 #135

Oh, I'm sure the OP will bring up Gallup... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #65

Do these polls reflect the latest jobs numbers? Sugarcoated Oct 2012 #14

i understand you were so diappointed in obama during the debate. you made it clear, loudly. BUT... seabeyond Oct 2012 #15

Kentuck is right B2G Oct 2012 #19

that is bullshit. then you have not been listening. why? nt seabeyond Oct 2012 #33

I guess I missed the Big Bird Bounce B2G Oct 2012 #37

You must be relying on the MSM to inform you. Mistake. CakeGrrl Oct 2012 #112

Excellent post, B2G Carolina Oct 2012 #118

Agreed...one curious point is this alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #20

Oh for Christ's sake... WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #21

So what's your point alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #26

I know, right? B2G Oct 2012 #28

I hope Will took what you said to heart, seabeyond. bigtree Oct 2012 #44

It is not Will that exaggerated. Big Blue Marble Oct 2012 #108

agreed... yet, seabeyond Oct 2012 #117

The problem with America DonCoquixote Oct 2012 #121

Strong and wrong will win every time. laundry_queen Oct 2012 #136

Yes,though I must ask DonCoquixote Oct 2012 #140

Oh, that was because of 2 reasons laundry_queen Oct 2012 #148

The big question here... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #16

The swing state poll that I'm most interested in is Ohio's Larkspur Oct 2012 #17

So what your saying is the ARG Ohio polls Sugarcoated Oct 2012 #22

Yep fugop Oct 2012 #35

I would find it very hard to believe Sugarcoated Oct 2012 #36

"An entire Summer and early Fall's worth of gains has been all but wiped out." kentuck Oct 2012 #23

Do people really take ARG and Siena woolldog Oct 2012 #29

Not if you don't like the results WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #32

Correction: woolldog Oct 2012 #45

If You Posted ARG During The 08 Primaries ( They Leaned Clinton) You Got Crucified DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #103

I guess you don't like survey usa? bigtree Oct 2012 #47

At same link: O: 45 R: 44 (Ohio) SurveyUSA My Pet Goat Oct 2012 #30

Rand/American Life Panel abumbyanyothername Oct 2012 #53

Which is consistent with the hypothesis... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #67

I thought they were in Sebass1271 Oct 2012 #31

Who will take the trouble of deconstructing the polls to determine how Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #34

Prosense bigtree Oct 2012 #51

Do you think this is permanent? Sugarcoated Oct 2012 #38

This bump, like all others, will be short lived.....when did you become.. Joe the Revelator Oct 2012 #40

Wednesday night. WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #48

I think this still has debate residue bigtree Oct 2012 #73

first of all, it's been a statistically close race all along bigtree Oct 2012 #42

Yes, because the bump isn't already fading in new polls. jeff47 Oct 2012 #43

"Wait a couple weeks, and the polls will revert." WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #52

4 < 2 (nt) jeff47 Oct 2012 #150

Good grief. You're hyping RW polls? ProSense Oct 2012 #46

I think the op is still trying to justify all of the poutrage about the debate bigtree Oct 2012 #61

Nobody is in more danger alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #63

Will Pitt is an excellent writer, poilitical strategist and observer, and a fine and decent man bigtree Oct 2012 #69

I agree with all that alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #70

Huh -- interesting obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #82

I know, right? Washington Times shows Romney leading obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #79

Two weaks ago ... GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #50

Here's something to get excited about: ProSense Oct 2012 #54

+1 bigtree Oct 2012 #64

And it could swing back the other way in a heartbeat. n/t IDoMath Oct 2012 #55

Michigan: Obama 48%, Romney 45% Romulox Oct 2012 #57

Exciting: ProSense Oct 2012 #59

To be clear, the numbers I posted are from EPIC's latest poll. Prosense is confused. nt Romulox Oct 2012 #66

I take ProSense's point to be that EPIC polling has alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #68

Right, but that ignores a lot of detail. Michigan was thought to be "out of play" during the time Romulox Oct 2012 #71

Obama is still up ProSense Oct 2012 #78

LOL. A stunning level of analysis with someone OBVIOUSLY familiar with the facts! nt Romulox Oct 2012 #84

Maybe alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #83

No, Michigan wasn't "always going to be in play". A month ago, the story was that PACS pulled their Romulox Oct 2012 #90

So the PACS and Romney are putting money back in? alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #93

Haven't seen a big write up, but the commercials have begun again, yes... nt Romulox Oct 2012 #98

Fair enough, then it's in play alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #102

I guess the sarcasm confused you. ProSense Oct 2012 #72

Indeed it did, since Michigan being "in play" is a big change from the recent past. Romulox Oct 2012 #76

No, the ProSense Oct 2012 #80

My first post to this thread: "Michigan: Obama 48%, Romney 45%" Romulox Oct 2012 #97

I don't think it's any accident that all these "polls" abumbyanyothername Oct 2012 #58

So, now we think attacking the polls is OK? renie408 Oct 2012 #81

If the polls are as screwed up as the last Pew poll, yes. Is that a problem? nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #156

Do you guys read Nate Silver? meadowlark5 Oct 2012 #60

+1 bigtree Oct 2012 #62

I think it is time for me to stick my head in the sand..or throw up. renie408 Oct 2012 #74

Just don't do it at the same time. Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #109

WASHINGTON TIMES poll? obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #77

How about the Pew Research Center poll that has Romney up by 4? renie408 Oct 2012 #86

I didn't know you and Will Pitt cowrote the OP obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #88

You missed the "Zogby" part WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #96

No, I didn't obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #99

Do yourself a favor and check out Pew demographics catbyte Oct 2012 #95

That does it ... I'm staying home. Doesn't matter any way. JoePhilly Oct 2012 #85

lol obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #92

I'm going back to hating this country get the red out Oct 2012 #87

DU people are SO going to freak out when Gallup comes out Shivering Jemmy Oct 2012 #91

Do tell why DU will freak out and need to get a grip obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #101

Sure Shivering Jemmy Oct 2012 #105

and you, honeypie, need to not be telling people what to do. cali Oct 2012 #104

*shrugs* Shivering Jemmy Oct 2012 #107

shrug away, pumpkin cali Oct 2012 #128

Luckily this can be turned around starting Thursday night and with WI_DEM Oct 2012 #94

Thanks marions ghost Oct 2012 #119

Oh well. People are fickle. Four weeks is a long time, though. TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #100

This post really depresses me and I'm not sure exactly why. Maybe it's coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #106

A 1964 Landslide Was Never In The Cards. What Led You To Believe Obama Could Get 62% Of The Vote? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #114

Well, there for a time I believed Romney was on track to alienate every demographic other coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #158

If The Republicans Keep Alienating People Of Color DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #159

They have to make it look close B Calm Oct 2012 #110

Get a grip, Will. n/t K Gardner Oct 2012 #111

+1. Chorophyll Oct 2012 #127

+2. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #154

This is exactly why Carolina Oct 2012 #115

We don't need another Hero marions ghost Oct 2012 #120

We do need a HERO! Carolina Oct 2012 #126

Have you noticed it's a different world now? marions ghost Oct 2012 #130

have you noticed he put the crooks Carolina Oct 2012 #137

You'll see changes in a second term marions ghost Oct 2012 #146

self delete because of duplication Carolina Oct 2012 #116

And leave it to you to gleefully, eagerly, cliffordu Oct 2012 #124

Derp WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #125

Your constant, relentless, breathless reposting of every negative item written cliffordu Oct 2012 #129

I hope ALL Democrats understand - America likes what it perceives as fighters. calimary Oct 2012 #131

I don't buy that entirely marions ghost Oct 2012 #143

I predict that Ryan will behave the same as Romney and the media will portray him as that fighter, AlinPA Oct 2012 #145

A-well-a everybody's heard about the bird deaniac21 Oct 2012 #138

New CNN Ohio poll Obama up by 4 with Likely voters, 10 among registered voters WI_DEM Oct 2012 #141

Freak Out DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #147

How would either candidate do if they were to actually have a real debate? acdrug1135 Oct 2012 #149

Seriously??.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #153

Well you did your part. gulliver Oct 2012 #157