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Kaleva

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87. But you'd agree with me that one at the poverty line would consider 50k well off?

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Sat Feb 6, 2021, 12:35 PM

Feb 2021

Regardless of where one lived?

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I really will be disappointed if Biden allows for the stimulus phaseout to begin at $50,000. [View all] Drunken Irishman Feb 2021 OP

campaign promises lol nt msongs Feb 2021 #1

I'm waiting till the final version is voted on before getting upset jimfields33 Feb 2021 #2

If people don't voice their concerns before then, and it gets to that point, it'll be too late. Drunken Irishman Feb 2021 #4

I can call my senators jimfields33 Feb 2021 #8

Bless you, my child obamanut2012 Feb 2021 #89

Thanks! Lol. jimfields33 Feb 2021 #96

It never was about everyone. Geez mobeau69 Feb 2021 #12

I called my Senators today...call your Senators and the house elected and the White House tell them Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #17

Every American didn't get the first stimulus payments. beaglelover Feb 2021 #19

I have a friend who had just retired at age 58 TexasBushwhacker Feb 2021 #34

I agree that it should be the same Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #3

I will be surprised if it's that low underpants Feb 2021 #5

I know it's a typo. jimfields33 Feb 2021 #9

100 thousand mile maintenance Ferrets are Cool Feb 2021 #11

Thanks. Corrected. underpants Feb 2021 #15

I want to ask, most politely... sheshe2 Feb 2021 #21

100K MILEAGE - standard maintenance TexasBushwhacker Feb 2021 #35

We should all write & call & remind them that in many cases $50,000 isn't that much because tblue37 Feb 2021 #6

I will be surprised if it's that low underpants Feb 2021 #7

If they want to means test it, then do it right and adjust for CoL obamanut2012 Feb 2021 #10

It could make a lot of people who voted for Democrats Bettie Feb 2021 #30

Do they will vote for republicans or sit home? Blue_true Feb 2021 #39

Making people feel betrayed, screwed over isn't Bettie Feb 2021 #53

You make good points. Blue_true Feb 2021 #57

Thank you Bettie Feb 2021 #67

They vote for the politician who promises to look out for them. If that politician goes back Autumn Feb 2021 #71

So, you would take total destruction of everything that you say you value, Blue_true Feb 2021 #102

Nope, not me. I'm doing fine. To younger voters it might be a handful of issues but Autumn Feb 2021 #105

Maybe those young people need to remember the phrase Blue_true Feb 2021 #107

These young people weren't alive when he said that. And if it wanted to, our country can do a Autumn Feb 2021 #108

One thing that I agree with you on is our healthcare system is garbage. Blue_true Feb 2021 #110

No one spat out anything. The real cold realization is that many young people Autumn Feb 2021 #111

Yup, people forget it is stimulus obamanut2012 Feb 2021 #59

50k pre or post tax? Rosco T. Feb 2021 #13

I am assuming they go by gross - I definitely don't make $50,000 after taxes. Drunken Irishman Feb 2021 #16

It's adjusted gross income - the income the government would tax you on Iris Feb 2021 #47

That's fine. I still won't make the cut. Drunken Irishman Feb 2021 #52

yup obamanut2012 Feb 2021 #70

AGI IS after the newer 12k standard deduction per person Captain Zero Feb 2021 #68

No it isn't. dawg Feb 2021 #77

I think that would be a mistake...we need to keep the number that Trump did...and 50,000 isn't Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #14

I agree Iris Feb 2021 #56

50k in West Virginia LisaM Feb 2021 #18

Manchin wants more things for West Virginia JI7 Feb 2021 #23

Biden just said he thought 75,000 for single and 150,000 for families....that is what he wants. Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #20

Good to hear. Drunken Irishman Feb 2021 #22

75K as the beginning of the lowered amounts or 75K as in you get nothing (with 50K were the sliding Celerity Feb 2021 #25

You assumed right. nt Blue_true Feb 2021 #37

So 50K its starts to phase out, and at 75K nothing? Celerity Feb 2021 #40

I believe that in the first package, total phaseout didn't happen until Blue_true Feb 2021 #42

She makes right around 75K per annum (gross), so got close to the full amount last 2 times. Celerity Feb 2021 #44

$1400 was the deal at the same levels as the $600 Takket Feb 2021 #24

the party that gave tax cuts to billionaires Skittles Feb 2021 #26

every american was never a promise...... getagrip_already Feb 2021 #27

President Biden today: Drunken Irishman Feb 2021 #32

I was referring to the claim that "everyone" was promised a check... getagrip_already Feb 2021 #64

It takes a village... lame54 Feb 2021 #28

Our party's obsession with 'means testing' has to stop Maven Feb 2021 #29

+1 crickets Feb 2021 #31

+10 Celerity Feb 2021 #46

exactly Iris Feb 2021 #48

+1 leftstreet Feb 2021 #50

Yes, it does Bettie Feb 2021 #54

Some people never will kcr Feb 2021 #72

100%. Stop being exclusionary except in the obvious cases. coti Feb 2021 #101

YES! It is a back door to pitting ordinary people against each other Bettie Feb 2021 #106

AGREED!!!!!! TuskMoar Feb 2021 #109

Biden won't "allow" anything handmade34 Feb 2021 #33

If he signs it, he allows it. Simple. Drunken Irishman Feb 2021 #55

Then Manchin could make it so that nobody, except McConnell and Roisin Ni Fiachra Feb 2021 #65

If you make $60,000 your check won't be far from $1400. nt Blue_true Feb 2021 #36

I get a little over 16K a year and I'll spend it if I get it but I don't actually need it. Kaleva Feb 2021 #38

Right and your spending it will put $$ back into th economy Iris Feb 2021 #49

The repubs will be able to use this as ammo saying Dems lied about giving the middle class Liberal In Texas Feb 2021 #41

Yep. And it should be 2000 not 1400 Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2021 #51

LOL! NurseJackie Feb 2021 #66

I think $2000 is off the table. Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #79

Agreed 1000%. Especially if we want to keep Warnock's seat on 2022, we go large Arazi Feb 2021 #83

I'd do full $2,000 checks if it were up to me. dawg Feb 2021 #85

At a minimum, it needs to be done at the 1st stimulus cut off levels. roamer65 Feb 2021 #43

I agree. $50k is a very low threshold. Millions of people are hurting making more than that Vivienne235729 Feb 2021 #45

Start contacting Senators on this JI7 Feb 2021 #58

Exactly obamanut2012 Feb 2021 #60

Heres the thing Tink41 Feb 2021 #61

Is it still based on 2019 taxes? OnionPatch Feb 2021 #62

Don't know but they should base it on 2020 also since it is about the pandemic JI7 Feb 2021 #63

But those returns haven't been filed yet, and many won't be for months. dawg Feb 2021 #73

Why should the wealthy get stimulus? msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #69

So $50,000 a year is wealthy to you? dawg Feb 2021 #74

No, But ALL AMERICANS ? msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #75

No one is seriously proposing that checks go out to all Americans. Here is the issue: dawg Feb 2021 #76

It's 3X my annual income so I'd consider it up there. Kaleva Feb 2021 #78

Depends where you live, Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #80

And 16k would even go less in such a situation. Kaleva Feb 2021 #82

True. Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #86

It took years to adjust to living on SSDI Kaleva Feb 2021 #91

In some parts of the country, $50,000 is barely enough to get by. dawg Feb 2021 #81

But you'd agree with me that one at the poverty line would consider 50k well off? Kaleva Feb 2021 #87

They might perceive it that way, but that woudn't make it right. dawg Feb 2021 #90

I can see someone making over 100k thinking 50k isn't much. Kaleva Feb 2021 #92

Medical costs can be a huge factor as well. dawg Feb 2021 #93

And it's foolish to expect those at the poverty line to have sympathy for those making over 50k Kaleva Feb 2021 #94

Not so much asking for sympathy so much as understanding. dawg Feb 2021 #95

There's always someone worse off - and that's the rub. Drunken Irishman Feb 2021 #98

I would wager you have more in common with me than I do comfortably middle class. Drunken Irishman Feb 2021 #97

By choice, a car is not an option for me. Kaleva Feb 2021 #114

Like I said, we have far more in common than your original post suggested. Drunken Irishman Feb 2021 #115

It's all relative. I could live on $50,000 for 8-10 years Roisin Ni Fiachra Feb 2021 #113

If this $1,400 is making up the rest of the promised $2,000, then everyone who got $600 should get WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2021 #84

I'm okay with means testing, I just think we should use the same limits that were used ... dawg Feb 2021 #88

Agreed. It seems ridiculous that those who were promised $600, and got $600... Drunken Irishman Feb 2021 #99

The Limits For The First One Seemed Right ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #100

The catch, and I know this sounds like a spiel for top-down economics... Drunken Irishman Feb 2021 #104

Your Second Paragraph Is My Point ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #112

We all deserve compensation after tRump's criminal negligence ecstatic Feb 2021 #103