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Response to Celerity (Reply #23)

Fri Feb 5, 2021, 10:10 AM

26. Oh brother! GMAFB, will ya?

as he is the one actually doing this, whether single handedly or leading the charge
Lord.

Please explain how Manchin blocking multiple parts of Biden's agenda (including parts that would have helped the vast bulk of one of the poorest states in the US) is going to help him get re-elected 4 years from now.
Don't play games with me. You're much smarter than you're pretending to be by asking that question.

Same for the 15 USD minimum wage, which Manchin (and Manchin alone as far as I can tell) opposes.
Politics is all about compromise and incremental gains. It involves making sacrifices, give-and-take, and finding common ground. The impatient "gotta-have-it-right-now" purity folks are creating more division and doing more harm that Manchin.

Of course everyone would love to have everything right-fucking-now... but that's just not a very realistic way to look at things. It's naive to believe that such things will happen simply because we demand them, or because some among us believe that scapegoating Manchin will somehow make things better. (It won't.)

You know perfectly well that he's doing exactly what he needs to do to please (and represent) his constituents... the ones who voted for him... the ones who know FULL WELL who he is and what he thinks/believes.

I'm sorry to be the one to have to break it to ya... but with Manchin, you just have to take the bad with the good. He is who he is. You get what you get. In spite of his flaws, there's a lot of good to be had, and we're in a much better position WITH him than without him.

But, if it makes people feel good to demonize him and kneecap HIS future in the party (which, in-turn, harms Democrats) then there's nothing I can do to stop it. All I can do, instead, is to point out the folly of such actions. He's doing the best he can do under the circumstances. Efforts to weaken him mean that he'll be able to do even LESS. So why would anyone want to do/say things that make it MORE difficult for him?

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