Incorrect on two counts (Reply #20) - Democratic Underground

In the discussion thread: Manchin and Tester Joined the repubs to Overturn the Executive Order Re: Keystone Pipeline [View all]

Response to mucifer (Original post)

Fri Feb 5, 2021, 09:33 AM

DarthDem (5,006 posts)

20. Incorrect on two counts

First, the amendments are all non-binding. Nothing says they have to appear in the final bill. Manchin and Tester were just messaging and will not refuse to vote for the final bill lacking this measure.

Second, at the end of the votearama, a substitute amendment is offered to streamline the process. That happened here, and the Keystone amendment was removed. So it actually never happened. Just theater.

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36 replies	Author	Time	Post
Manchin and Tester Joined the repubs to Overturn the Executive Order Re: Keystone Pipeline [View all]	mucifer	Feb 2021	OP
Oh dear. That's very bad!	ananda	Feb 2021	#1
Not surprised...	2naSalit	Feb 2021	#2
FFS. Manchin, if he continues down the path he is on so far, will do more than any other person	Celerity	Feb 2021	#3
No 15 per hour and now the pipeline	Fullduplexxx	Feb 2021	#4
and more to come, he is or will block Biden promises (not Bernie level, but Biden, mainstream) to	Celerity	Feb 2021	#7
Manchin is the Lieberman of this era.	radius777	Feb 2021	#17
+1 great short, concise breakdown of one of our key structural weak points that Manchin is hurting	Celerity	Feb 2021	#18
Except that Lieberman was from Connecticut	Tom Rinaldo	Feb 2021	#22
No 15 per hour and now the pipeline Manchin the fkg fredo of the dem party	Fullduplexxx	Feb 2021	#6
Doesn't a minimum wage increase need its own bill?	ananda	Feb 2021	#11
What upset me is that he said no to this and not just this	Fullduplexxx	Feb 2021	#12
Yeah, Manchin is definitely a sticky cog.	ananda	Feb 2021	#15
He is who he is. Learn to live with it. Be happy he's a Democrat (I am!)	NurseJackie	Feb 2021	#13
He needs to stop blocking Biden's agenda, simple as that, as it quite possibly will have disastrous	Celerity	Feb 2021	#14
This type of rhetoric and scapegoating serves no good purpose.	NurseJackie	Feb 2021	#19
It is not scaoegoating, as he is the one actually doing this, whether single handedly or	Celerity	Feb 2021	#23
+1. WV is 'red' mainly due to cultural issues,	radius777	Feb 2021	#24
Oh brother! GMAFB, will ya?	NurseJackie	Feb 2021	#26
not playing games at all, and I am not buying what you are spinning at all	Celerity	Feb 2021	#31
There's no need for me to answer questions you already know the answer to...	NurseJackie	Feb 2021	#33
again with the spin	Celerity	Feb 2021	#34
Nobody made such a claim.	NurseJackie	Feb 2021	#36
This	StarfishSaver	Feb 2021	#27
If it was not for Joe Manchin Joe Biden literally would not be able to seat a federal judge	Cosmocat	Feb 2021	#25
Good, we can drive our imports from OPEC and the Middle East to zero	Klaralven	Feb 2021	#5
and destroy the environment around the drilling areas and the pipeline itself, and encourage	Celerity	Feb 2021	#10
AFAIK, the oil doesn't go to us.	theaocp	Feb 2021	#16
Currently our net imports of crude is 2 to 3 million barrels per day.	Klaralven	Feb 2021	#29
I think those amendments are non-binding	Jamesyu	Feb 2021	#8
+1 I doubt this amendment will ever be enacted.	lagomorph777	Feb 2021	#28
Is that why Tester visited the White House the other day?	Mr. Ected	Feb 2021	#9
Incorrect on two counts	DarthDem	Feb 2021	#20
Putting Manchin in as Chairman of Energy and Natural Resources.	Roisin Ni Fiachra	Feb 2021	#21
WV is perfectly situated to become a renewables powerhouse.	lagomorph777	Feb 2021	#30
Stop picking on Joe, we need him. nt	Hotler	Feb 2021	#32
Manchin. I told you guys.	Iggo	Feb 2021	#35

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