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CreekDog

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56. the tens of millions of Native Americans that died afterwards made room for them

Mon Oct 8, 2012, 01:20 PM

Oct 2012

by the way, if anyone thinks you only take the side of white people here, your post along with lots of others, is the reason why.

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Why is Columbus Day still a holiday? [View all] obamanut2012 Oct 2012 OP

First Nations Day, I like it. Arctic Dave Oct 2012 #1

I do, too! obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #6

love it, and in Berkeley, it's Indigenous Peoples' Day CreekDog Oct 2012 #50

I like that idea too! nt avebury Oct 2012 #58

I like it! City Lights Oct 2012 #89

So that people can sharp_stick Oct 2012 #2

Bourgeois protest. earthside Oct 2012 #49

BS. Many Catholic clerics in the New World DEPLORED the horrible treatment... Odin2005 Oct 2012 #59

They didn't in the 16th century .... earthside Oct 2012 #68

Columbus Day happens every year. Bucky Oct 2012 #127

Clearly Columbus is not worthy of celebration. Hoyt Oct 2012 #3

Or syphyllis day cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #4

What I want to know is why it matters whether Columbus was Jewish. no_hypocrisy Oct 2012 #5

That would give some of our members even more reason to despise him slackmaster Oct 2012 #8

well, it's interesting in the context of Spain at the time eShirl Oct 2012 #75

It gives a few people something to complain about between 4th of July fireworks and Thanksgiving slackmaster Oct 2012 #7

I need to reread some anti Halloween Chick tracts obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #9

Jack even has an index page of Halloween-related tracts for your convenience! slackmaster Oct 2012 #13

OOOOO! obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #16

So the Salem witch thing is true. Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #137

Maybe we can have offense day 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #32

I personally think genocide is something to be "offended" by obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #36

We aren't celebrating genocide 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #38

Columbus Day is celebrating genocide and the master of that genocde obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #40

You seem to be an expert on everything 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #43

No it is not. Drahthaardogs Oct 2012 #79

When I was a kid in the '60s, we always had Columbus Day off from school. MgtPA Oct 2012 #10

Some schools use federal holidays to make up snow days pstokely Oct 2012 #128

Joe Columbo day? wilt the stilt Oct 2012 #11

How about just "Columbo Day?" KansDem Oct 2012 #29

I'm willing to cut the guy some slack... -..__... Oct 2012 #12

Lucky you! I haven't had Columbus Day off since 1989 slackmaster Oct 2012 #14

do you support the USA living up to all it's promised to Native American tribes? CreekDog Oct 2012 #52

I think Columbus Day should be halted immediately. ywcachieve Oct 2012 #15

His work helped pave the way for millions of families to escape oppression in Europe slackmaster Oct 2012 #17

My family escaped oppression in Europe too, MgtPA Oct 2012 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author ronnie624 Oct 2012 #37

I think Jamestown, teh Lost Colony, and the MA settlements did that obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #42

And these would have happened without someone from Europe 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #44

On my mother's side I had an ancestor at Jamestown and some in early Pennsylvania as well slackmaster Oct 2012 #47

the tens of millions of Native Americans that died afterwards made room for them CreekDog Oct 2012 #56

I'm not denying the atrocities that were committed against Native Americans slackmaster Oct 2012 #62

You aren't balanced at all, you didn't bring up Native Americans ONCE CreekDog Oct 2012 #100

Plenty of other peole have done so already slackmaster Oct 2012 #116

Now you're claiming that other people posted so you wouldn't need to CreekDog Oct 2012 #119

I think it's worth noting that disease did most of that 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #66

"tens of millions of Native Americans" Riftaxe Oct 2012 #114

And your knowledge must be more pathetically ignorant than mine, since you posted no numbers CreekDog Oct 2012 #118

Think of it as a learning exercise Riftaxe Oct 2012 #122

nobody's learning anything from you CreekDog Oct 2012 #123

Some of my ancestors came here to escape the wars and oppression in Europe. NOLALady Oct 2012 #61

You ancestors didn't escape European oppression tama Oct 2012 #125

I still disapprove of the nation celebrating such a brute. ywcachieve Oct 2012 #135

It needs to be reframed significantly Tom Rinaldo Oct 2012 #18

Christoper Columbus was a damm blasted liar.. HipChick Oct 2012 #19

I never celebrate Genocidal Maniac Day. nt Mnemosyne Oct 2012 #20

Duh the stupid it hurts.... It should be Mormon Day. Jesus Christ came to America 2000 years ago! DippyDem Oct 2012 #21

because he wrote the Constitution Enrique Oct 2012 #22

If it makes you feel any better gollygee Oct 2012 #24

When I was a kid in the 90s Lilyeye Oct 2012 #80

For that matter, why is 'Thanksgiving' still a holiday? The heirs of the Native Americans coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #25

. jberryhill Oct 2012 #63

For that matter why is Christmas a holiday? 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #67

They should have a national whining day Missycim Oct 2012 #101

Wailing day and Teeth Gnashing hour 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #104

He was a slave trader and kidnapper of humans he sold into bondage en mass Bluenorthwest Oct 2012 #26

The Vikings and Celtic priests obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #31

So we shouldn't celebrate Columbus because he was a murderer and sociopath, BUT . . . 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #34

Yes, I know more about "Vikings" than the stereotypes of them obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #39

Did you not say "Viking day would be cool" 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #41

What about St. Patrick's Day? Drahthaardogs Oct 2012 #82

What about St. Brendan's Day? JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2012 #96

The Romans wiped out the Druids and the Celts Drahthaardogs Oct 2012 #99

To be fair OriginalGeek Oct 2012 #113

Yeah me too, but I draw the line at beer out of a green bottle. Drahthaardogs Oct 2012 #117

You'll get no argument from me on any of that! OriginalGeek Oct 2012 #120

Well, likely not in fact Scootaloo Oct 2012 #115

A Nit To Pick ProfessorGAC Oct 2012 #131

Disease doesn't work like that. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #134

While he was guilty of all those things, Dyedinthewoolliberal Oct 2012 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #33

They were probably driven off FloridaJudy Oct 2012 #97

Not all who came from European continent tama Oct 2012 #124

Mainly inertia. Vidar Oct 2012 #30

He discovered the New World which is actually more than North America Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #35

It should be "Indigenous People's Day" Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #45

No fucking clue. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #46

facts only mean what the Republicans mean, since 1968. n/t librechik Oct 2012 #48

A paid holiday is a paid holiday! demosincebirth Oct 2012 #51

Columbus Day Silver Swan Oct 2012 #69

As a Teamster, I got it paid in starting in 1959. demosincebirth Oct 2012 #71

Happy Beringia Land Bridge Immigration Day!!! MADem Oct 2012 #53

Italian-Americans view it as "their day". Odin2005 Oct 2012 #54

Dang right we do. We are a very proud people and have done alot for this country. You southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #64

D'accordo. Drahthaardogs Oct 2012 #81

I can't read Italian but yes Columbus day is important for Italian Americans. thank you. southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #90

Your reading is pretty good. Drahthaardogs Oct 2012 #103

Well my Aunt and 2 cousins live in Parma and the rest live in Naples. I can speak the southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #108

Most of us aren't racist fuckwits, so no. LeftyMom Oct 2012 #85

Yes. It wasn't celebrated until 1906 and was not a national holiday until 1937. KurtNYC Oct 2012 #93

Agreed. n/t 99Forever Oct 2012 #55

To piss off DUers. And it works every year (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #57

Yep. Maybe Arawak Remembrance Day. Matariki Oct 2012 #60

We should aslo change the names of the days of the week... LanternWaste Oct 2012 #65

All this pissing and moaning... Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2012 #70

"....rape of Jewish women would end in death for the German man would did it." SOURCE? And comparing WinkyDink Oct 2012 #72

They would be race traitors -- well known fact obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #112

Italian-American Heritage Day oberliner Oct 2012 #73

What is has "mainly turned into" IS A DAY OFF FROM SCHOOL AND WORK. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #74

Depends where you live oberliner Oct 2012 #86

School was open here pstokely Oct 2012 #129

It always was. earthside Oct 2012 #92

Why is Valentines Day still a holiday? 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #76

I believe that's simply the process of acculturation. LanternWaste Oct 2012 #87

It really was a massacre and since Old Columbus didn't land here I don't get it. LaurenG Oct 2012 #88

It's not a holiday so your entire post Kingofalldems Oct 2012 #106

Sure it is 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #107

Not a holiday in any sense--no one gets the day off Kingofalldems Oct 2012 #109

The definition of a holiday is not that you don't have to work 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #110

Why do they have school on Veterans Day? pstokely Oct 2012 #130

Bingo Wetzelbill Oct 2012 #77

One of my facebook friends is really pounding this home LaurenG Oct 2012 #78

Transformational One_Life_To_Give Oct 2012 #83

Should Christmas Day be a Federal Holiday? Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #84

another way to to have a celebration joelz Oct 2012 #91

Or we could call it European Invasion of the Western Hemisphere day. n/t Cleita Oct 2012 #94

Columbus Day was not a national holiday until 1937. KurtNYC Oct 2012 #95

Because changing it would require Congress to do something? Retrograde Oct 2012 #98

We just love parades here in NY. that is why it is a holiday in ny hrmjustin Oct 2012 #102

K&R. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #105

Er, point of order... Scootaloo Oct 2012 #111

I agree. Columbus Day doesn't make sense. toddwv Oct 2012 #121

Holidays... prete_nero Oct 2012 #126

It doesn't make sense but I will take it anyway. yellowcanine Oct 2012 #132

While we are on the topic, why is Thanksgiving on Thursday, making the day after a holiday? yellowcanine Oct 2012 #133

Because taking time off of work is good for people slackmaster Oct 2012 #136

I am all for that, but moving Thanksgiving to Friday would yellowcanine Oct 2012 #138

How about William Tecumseh Sherman's birthday? slackmaster Oct 2012 #139

21st Amendment Day First Friday in December. yellowcanine Oct 2012 #140

Indigenous Peoples Day Trenton Oct 2012 #141