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TahitiNut

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43. The Social Security 'issue' could be COMPLETELY SOLVED with just ONE change:
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:14 AM
Oct 2012

Two words: Living Wage


The SOLE 'problem' with Social Security is the decimation of working class wages over the last 35 years!! The plutocrats (i.e. "entitlement class&quot have been waging an economic war on the working class for over 35 years. The working class is losing.

Alternatively, put a 1% "Transfer Tax" on the sale or exchange of corporate equities (i.e. "entitlements&quot .

Fuck the "free-ride" entitlement class!!


This is the stuff that angers me more than anything............ kooljerk666 Oct 2012 #1
Well ok newfie11 Oct 2012 #2
Oh, it's this thread again... SidDithers Oct 2012 #3
Better Believe It! MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #5
I knew you reminded me of someone... SidDithers Oct 2012 #16
boom goes the dynamite... dionysus Oct 2012 #26
I thought it was nap time in Canada... hay rick Oct 2012 #32
... SidDithers Oct 2012 #36
Are you in favor of cuts to SS? R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2012 #48
No. And neither is Obama...nt SidDithers Oct 2012 #54
I hope so. I would be in favor of a tax adjustment on the wealthy. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2012 #58
No, not Obama! Ever heard of Google? A Simple Game Oct 2012 #77
Thanks for introducing Firedoglake into this thread... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2012 #88
I just listed the first four that came up. There were about 2.5 million, A Simple Game Oct 2012 #94
I'd say two dozen *at most* are peddling and/or buying into the bullshit... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2012 #104
I heard it from President Obama in a clip on the TV, you believe what you want. A Simple Game Oct 2012 #124
What I believe is that you and I are likely in agreement. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2012 #138
Sorry, I think I misunderstood your post. n/t A Simple Game Oct 2012 #159
No need to apologize. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2012 #168
In taking the time to open up the first link, truedelphi Oct 2012 #173
I'm too old to wear blinders willingly. n/t A Simple Game Oct 2012 #174
Um, then why is he trying to implement the recommendations? yardwork Oct 2012 #116
Oh yeah? DeSwiss Oct 2012 #121
... SidDithers Oct 2012 #123
.... DeSwiss Oct 2012 #139
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #172
Hey, Sid, if you do not like this thread Trailrider1951 Oct 2012 #130
"Nobody will miss that" Glitterati Oct 2012 #4
It was satire MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #7
Sorry.... Glitterati Oct 2012 #9
Nah, it's fine MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #12
You had me until I got to the "sell a kidney" a line JonLP24 Oct 2012 #19
Your satire may be dry, but there's nothing dry with this product. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2012 #53
you need to cut and paste the faces of the elderly and put that on the can with a saying something leftyohiolib Oct 2012 #57
I'm working on it. :D R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2012 #60
"For Frisky Seniors!" WinkyDink Oct 2012 #118
Hmmmm..... DeSwiss Oct 2012 #141
Simpson-Bowles failed, and it ProSense Oct 2012 #6
Zombies! MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #11
Facts: ProSense Oct 2012 #14
"No current beneficiaries should see their basic benefits reduced." MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #17
"the administration will not accept an approach that slashes benefits for future generations." ProSense Oct 2012 #20
Yep. "What's a 'slash' versus a 'cut' in Social Security?" MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #21
"Cut" means cut, "Slash" means ProSense Oct 2012 #22
No, it's not clear at all. That's why people are concerned. Chef Eric Oct 2012 #71
Maybe it will "never end" given the looming 401(k) crisis. ieoeja Oct 2012 #35
Precisely my view. That's the reality of the Wall Street scam. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #42
Nailed it JDPriestly... And..when all "savers" can't earn much above 0% in KoKo Oct 2012 #75
QE is working.. girl gone mad Oct 2012 #95
Yes...it's working for those it serves....and the devil is in those details and weeds KoKo Oct 2012 #108
On the positive side of this, lower stock prices would allow SheilaT Oct 2012 #73
"Buy Low and Sell High" but, how many of those getting in do their research on markets KoKo Oct 2012 #109
Your example works great if the country's economy is growing enough, but it no longer is. jtuck004 Oct 2012 #125
The four million jobs that were lost in the first SheilaT Oct 2012 #137
Mi$$ RobMe and his ilk have people they don't care about, too. jtuck004 Oct 2012 #143
At what point will there be more people over the age of 70 SheilaT Oct 2012 #74
People who've lost jobs or houses were underwater, with unemployed kids are withdrawing KoKo Oct 2012 #76
But those people are still no where SheilaT Oct 2012 #80
Actually if it were not for immigration the US population would be stable or shrinking Fumesucker Oct 2012 #90
If. We still have the net immigration, SheilaT Oct 2012 #99
Main factors tama Oct 2012 #149
The Reason that I support Obama is that I think he allowed the Banksters to Reign KoKo Oct 2012 #112
Current, current, current. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2012 #56
That's the weak part of the progressive case tama Oct 2012 #148
Simpson Bowles failed because Ryan sunk it Doctor_J Oct 2012 #114
I am so relieved that legislation failed. Lasher Oct 2012 #156
K&R 99Forever Oct 2012 #8
most folks will end up dying more often fascisthunter Oct 2012 #10
It's never too late to learn hard work and take personal responsibility jsr Oct 2012 #13
Older Americans are currently underrepresented in that socioeconomic group MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #23
I live in an inner city area and see a small, but growing number of elderly women among the homeless JDPriestly Oct 2012 #44
We need to flip the argument around... raising the cap on SS taxes won't be very much... reformist2 Oct 2012 #15
Nice try. MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #24
Hey! you forgot your sarcasm smilie! n/t tech3149 Oct 2012 #18
Sell plasma and aluminum cans progressoid Oct 2012 #25
If selling a kidney works for the people in India, OnyxCollie Oct 2012 #27
K&R - lol closeupready Oct 2012 #28
Clinton said it to Ryan the other day, Obama is ready to deal on SS and other entitlements! Dustlawyer Oct 2012 #29
Which Dems? Which ProSense Oct 2012 #33
"in any deficit reduction package" MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #49
Ask Senator Sanders. Maybe he's in on selling out Social Security too. n/t ProSense Oct 2012 #50
Maybe that's the best wording he could get a large group of Senators to agree to. nt MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #61
So he's gullible? ProSense Oct 2012 #66
You're seeing a letter signed by many people who are running for reelection. uberblonde Oct 2012 #131
I hope you are right! There is a lot of money in play and Clinton did say it. They will not stop Dustlawyer Oct 2012 #165
If we just learn to adjust our wages, using the Hedonic Index, the way they adjust the CPI.... Fuddnik Oct 2012 #30
Slow death by a million cuts. nc4bo Oct 2012 #31
du rec. nt xchrom Oct 2012 #34
Only 22%? fadedrose Oct 2012 #37
Social Security has absolutely nothing to do with the debt. NOTHING! RC Oct 2012 #38
Well, Social Security "used" to have nothing to do with the debt, bvar22 Oct 2012 #69
Maybe, it's a bit more complicated than that. Sirveri Oct 2012 #155
Not in principle tama Oct 2012 #150
K&R. Kids. Think of it. Your generation gets to return to the real conservative, traditional JDPriestly Oct 2012 #39
Multigenerational families are not necessarily bad tama Oct 2012 #152
Kicking for the under-55 crowd. Me included. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2012 #40
That's the problem alrighty - not enough facts are known stupidicus Oct 2012 #41
A blogger??? Please. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #46
Please what? stupidicus Oct 2012 #84
And OBAMA WILL TAKE AWAY OUR GUNS and FORCE YOU TO MARRY A HOMOSEXUAL11!!! emulatorloo Oct 2012 #47
my my, a hapless exaggerator stupidicus Oct 2012 #85
... not unlike the OP. AtomicKitten Oct 2012 #86
not sure what you mean by "OP" stupidicus Oct 2012 #103
Dumbass Conspiracy theories are like assholes. Everybody has one. emulatorloo Oct 2012 #91
do you mean the one I posted? stupidicus Oct 2012 #101
The Social Security 'issue' could be COMPLETELY SOLVED with just ONE change: TahitiNut Oct 2012 #43
Productivity increases over last 3 decades show avg wage should be approx. 90k$$ A YEAR.......... kooljerk666 Oct 2012 #63
The decimation of working class wages is the major problem with the whole economy! LongTomH Oct 2012 #67
I agree. TahitiNut Oct 2012 #107
are you fucking serious??? ONLY $50,000??? NoMoreWarNow Oct 2012 #45
Know the facts: Simpson-Bowles does not include Soc. Sec. as part of its deficit reduction plan frazzled Oct 2012 #51
The OP is fiction, but ProSense Oct 2012 #52
Worse than fiction, it is Romney/Ryan enabling. emulatorloo Oct 2012 #55
No, he's blaming Dems for inadequate defense against what Repukes are doing n/t eridani Oct 2012 #161
Here it comes ... absolutely, definitely any second now .... wait for it ... wait for it ... JoePhilly Oct 2012 #72
It's regurgitated. AtomicKitten Oct 2012 #81
Is there a specific fact that you take issue with? MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #87
Yes, the part about SS not being included in the hypothetical computations. AtomicKitten Oct 2012 #89
Then fucking educate Americans about the Romney/Ryan plan then emulatorloo Oct 2012 #93
What, precisely, is fiction? MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #106
Clever wording by the Commission, but functionally false MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #59
Who says a re-elected President Obama supports such a plan? frazzled Oct 2012 #62
So exactly when... 99Forever Oct 2012 #70
No, the "brilliant strategy" is to let Romney and Ryan win emulatorloo Oct 2012 #92
The question you didn't answer... 99Forever Oct 2012 #97
But But But...Manny Oilwellian Oct 2012 #96
Thankfully all I have heard from the Pres. is that he wants to strenghtnen SS. raouldukelives Oct 2012 #64
Let's say there is a secret deal to cut Social Security, what will you do? ProSense Oct 2012 #65
I'll dedicate my life to making the name of the President responsible the Bluenorthwest Oct 2012 #79
Cool, that's all that matters. n/t ProSense Oct 2012 #83
Well done! And thanks for bringing up something very important. 20score Oct 2012 #68
Yelp for trash pickers! Call it "Hobo's List"! KamaAina Oct 2012 #78
Kick and Rec! Fuddnik Oct 2012 #82
Yep and with gas approaching $5 a gallon, we won't miss those little cuts at all. Cleita Oct 2012 #98
Just out of curiosity tama Oct 2012 #153
Hear, hear, Manny! woo me with science Oct 2012 #100
DURec leftstreet Oct 2012 #102
I'm not sure that's accurate. The cut percentage could entail a mzmolly Oct 2012 #105
Bill Clinton did during his speech the Democratic Convention, bvar22 Oct 2012 #110
I heard Clinton say that Simpson-Bowels was a bipartisan commission, mzmolly Oct 2012 #111
The commission's plan calls for a 22% lifetime cut for middle-income earners MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #113
Got a link that doesn't spin COLA? And, any thoughts on vouchercare? mzmolly Oct 2012 #128
Messing with COLA isn't a cut? MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #135
That depends on who does the analysis. mzmolly Oct 2012 #136
Democrats have screwed the 99% with great glee over the past 20 years MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #140
It's not a matter of cutting the COLA. It's a matter of interpreting mzmolly Oct 2012 #142
A means test will turn SS into "welfare" and it will then be killed... Odin2005 Oct 2012 #120
That's the plan leftstreet Oct 2012 #122
It's meant to be more like insurance mzmolly Oct 2012 #129
Oh great, GEICO Social Security !! leftstreet Oct 2012 #133
No. Just a social "safety" net. mzmolly Oct 2012 #134
No, it would turn it into an insurance plan. mzmolly Oct 2012 #127
+1,000 n/t LarryNM Oct 2012 #145
WE need a Democratic Congress. nt patrice Oct 2012 #115
As always, happy to rec this Autumn Oct 2012 #117
Thank you, 3rd Way Manny Doctor_J Oct 2012 #119
YUP Skittles Oct 2012 #126
this KG Oct 2012 #132
We'll probably get blamed at the end too Doctor_J Oct 2012 #158
The real irony is.... bvar22 Oct 2012 #167
The Repub reps definitely fear the teabaggers Doctor_J Oct 2012 #170
Twittered it. madfloridian Oct 2012 #144
I don't keep track of all comings and goings, but... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2012 #146
Not all the way back yet. Thinking about it. madfloridian Oct 2012 #147
Lord knows we need "outspoken on education." WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2012 #151
Well well Rex Oct 2012 #154
Hi madfloridian! a2liberal Oct 2012 #164
If I hadn't seen your name I would have gotten had. Zalatix Oct 2012 #157
K&R. Please, no cuts to Social Security. DLevine Oct 2012 #160
Here are some bullet points from a thread I wrote here in July 2011 Samantha Oct 2012 #162
K&R (n/t) a2liberal Oct 2012 #163
Schumer To Dems: Abandon Simpson-Bowles Tax Model ProSense Oct 2012 #166
And if there remains any doubt of their plans for SS & Medicare cuts... Oilwellian Oct 2012 #169
Just like our "leadership" to call SS and Medicare "entitlements" 4 weeks from the election Doctor_J Oct 2012 #171
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