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MotherPetrie

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72. I do him the compliment of NOT MAKING EXCUSES FOR OBAMA when he fouls up.

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 11:37 PM

Oct 2012

When he debates a serial liar like Mitt Romney, I expect Obama to call Romney on his lies, not give his stump speech -- and instead of addressing Romney's lies, what Obama gave during that debate was a recitation of his stump speech. I should know - I've heard it live.

Maybe you are forgiving of Obama throwing the debate away - but I am not.

These rationalizations and excuses and fantasies about third dimension chess do not reflect the reality that Obama badly flubbed the debate.

It's really interesting that you automatically accuse anyone who doesn't blind herself to that fact, a Romney supporter. Are you saying that Obama supporters must either blind themselves to reality or be seen as turncoats?

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67 million viewers vs. 3 million viewers. And we wonder why Obama never mentioned the 47% [View all] LynneSin Oct 2012 OP

Exactly! In fact, ProSense Oct 2012 #1

Exactly davidpdx Oct 2012 #15

Yes yes- great OP and great 1st comment! (nt) Tumbulu Oct 2012 #47

Excellent analysis.. Kalidurga Oct 2012 #2

Oh you just know mitt wanted to apologize Cha Oct 2012 #3

This thing is, President Obama is playing chess, while Romney is playing checkers. ywcachieve Oct 2012 #81

And, I thought Romney was playing Cha Oct 2012 #82

Great point, LS WCGreen Oct 2012 #4

When your opponent is shooting himself in the foot, you don't try to take his gun away. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #5

Bravo littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #6

Excellent catch littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #7

"And we wonder why Obama never mentioned the 47%" Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #8

I never wondered either. Prez didn't bring up 47% or Bain for a very good reason. Kahuna Oct 2012 #18

I mention elsewhere that Mitt pulled a stunt you see in local elections.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #22

You know that 67.2 million is probably much higher if you factor in dmr Oct 2012 #9

I watched on Cspan streaming LynneSin Oct 2012 #10

So did I station agent Oct 2012 #11

I Have Been Watching the Korean Channel .. far more interesting YOHABLO Oct 2012 #42

If you haven't already done this, go to: marybourg Oct 2012 #24

going without tv gives me far more time to access better info. via internet. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #26

And Miss-out on the Jersey Shore Finale? Shame YOHABLO Oct 2012 #44

It is extremely difficult to "debate" in any meaningful way BlueMTexpat Oct 2012 #12

So instead he told 67 million viewers he's going to blow away Big Bird. Kablooie Oct 2012 #13

There was a variety to the critiques of O's performance. Some did not include this topic. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #14

True that. Even understanding why Prez didn't touch certain topics, his demeanor could have Kahuna Oct 2012 #19

Not the Real Romney... Not the Real Obama ! YOHABLO Oct 2012 #45

EXACTLY! I'm still steaming about that! SunSeeker Oct 2012 #33

If the President had presented a forceful demeanor do you think Romney.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #46

He did librarylu Oct 2012 #78

I posted that repeatedly the day after the debate. Obama purposely didn't want to give Kahuna Oct 2012 #16

Yep malaise Oct 2012 #17

Never thought of that. It would require that Obama's team crunched the numbers and anticipated Monk06 Oct 2012 #20

An apology by Romney doesn't make Obama look bad Stargleamer Oct 2012 #21

Why do you need a "Louie Gomert" "YOU LIE" DearAbby Oct 2012 #29

Obama should have looked Romney in the eyes and said: "The American people are entitled to the truth SunSeeker Oct 2012 #38

If you go back and you look at tapes of Obama debating H.Clinton. DearAbby Oct 2012 #65

From your lips to God's ears. SunSeeker Oct 2012 #67

I didn't need a "YOU LIE" moment Stargleamer Oct 2012 #60

For what purpose? Why do you need Obama DearAbby Oct 2012 #64

Well when InstantPolling shows that those who watched the Debates. . . Stargleamer Oct 2012 #71

Fox viewers for the most part aren't going to view Mitt apologizing as a positive thing.. Fumesucker Oct 2012 #23

I give this thread FIVE Cowbells! BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2012 #25

Thank you Lynne - You nailed it. GoneOffShore Oct 2012 #27

Hadn't thought of it that way...makes sense. nt cry baby Oct 2012 #28

The one thing I wish were different NMlib Oct 2012 #30

Former VP Al Gore, on the CurrentTV post-debate coverage ciking724 Oct 2012 #63

completely agree NMlib Oct 2012 #84

I think Obama team wanted him to take the high road... JackN415 Oct 2012 #31

Ridiculous Doctor_J Oct 2012 #32

I totally agree. We need to acknowledge that not calling Romney out for his lies was a mistake. SunSeeker Oct 2012 #35

Not at a debate. Would have made him look like a bully LynneSin Oct 2012 #36

I agree ncav53 Oct 2012 #34

Also ncav53 Oct 2012 #37

I never thought for one moment that Obama lost. warrior1 Oct 2012 #39

I didn't either goclark Oct 2012 #56

k&r... spanone Oct 2012 #40

If Mitt wanted to bring up the 47% he had plenty of opportunity in the debate. former9thward Oct 2012 #41

He wanted someone else to bring it up LynneSin Oct 2012 #50

yup and Obama left it as something he talks about "behind closed doors" not in public TeamPooka Oct 2012 #70

Sigh. handsofthedevil Oct 2012 #43

Good Point indeed flying-skeleton Oct 2012 #48

It was a triumphant performance! Julien Sorel Oct 2012 #49

Next debate is foreign policy and it still won't be mentioned LynneSin Oct 2012 #51

Next debate is foreign policy and domestic policy. Julien Sorel Oct 2012 #53

I thought the same thing! cheriemedium59 Oct 2012 #52

Boxing match strategy Democrats4All Oct 2012 #54

Checkmate for my President! goclark Oct 2012 #55

Nice try. I don't buy it. Obama had the chance to wrap ALL of Mittens' lies around his neck. MotherPetrie Oct 2012 #57

Too bad Obama doesn't have you to tell him what to do lunatica Oct 2012 #61

I do him the compliment of NOT MAKING EXCUSES FOR OBAMA when he fouls up. MotherPetrie Oct 2012 #72

What people should ask is: why did Mitt bring it up when he had 67 million people to talk to? Justice Oct 2012 #58

It was probably discussed quite a bit lunatica Oct 2012 #62

Mitt wanted the zinger. He wanted that 'There you go again/You're no Jack Kennedy' moment LynneSin Oct 2012 #68

Great analysis. Yup, Mitt went after Big Bird like there was no tomorrow. Major Hogwash Oct 2012 #73

Your assessment makes a lot of sense klook Oct 2012 #59

Interesting fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #66

There's a reason why Obama got through all the primaries victoriously and....... George II Oct 2012 #69

Many good points... crazy homeless guy Oct 2012 #74

Mitt going to FOX "News" is like running home to be mothered. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #75

NICE TRY- No Cigar Iggy Oct 2012 #76

He's already blown it with the 47% video LynneSin Oct 2012 #79

Rmoney's Apology Not Accepted Iggy Oct 2012 #83

I assume Romney will somehow work an apology into the second debate. I hope the Prez will patricia92243 Oct 2012 #77

agree and it was`t only the 47% madrchsod Oct 2012 #80

Oh dear, this is just so wacky, it's satire. Safetykitten Oct 2012 #85