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Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
59. Like I said before, fine, bring 'em in, it's not like we have any jobs.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 03:06 PM
Oct 2012

What'll they do when they get here?

I guess it depends on the career sharp_stick Oct 2012 #1
Forgive me, but isn't it obvious that it depends on the career? Orrex Oct 2012 #19
They are treestar Oct 2012 #2
Very few. Nothing compared to those who come here. Zalatix Oct 2012 #5
That's how America developed though treestar Oct 2012 #6
Who gives a shit, really? We have over 10 million unemployed here. Zalatix Oct 2012 #7
Maybe right now treestar Oct 2012 #13
Immigration almost stopped during the 1930s kiva Oct 2012 #16
You're one to talk about a one-track mind. Take off your rose-colored glasses for a second. Zalatix Oct 2012 #17
Will you quit with the personal shit and address the issue treestar Oct 2012 #23
You started the emotional, personal attack crap with your "one-track mind" comment. Zalatix Oct 2012 #26
I'm not reading all that treestar Oct 2012 #32
"Arguing over who started it"? In short, you can dish out the attacks but you can't take it. Zalatix Oct 2012 #36
Emphatic DURec for posts # 17, 26, and 36 by Zalatix... bvar22 Oct 2012 #49
Let me ask you something. Since you apparently said this: sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #130
my neighbors across the street have a homeless encampment behind their back fence. the HiPointDem Oct 2012 #113
That hardly means we are not the richest nation on earth treestar Oct 2012 #119
This message was self-deleted by its author HiPointDem Oct 2012 #120
Yea liberalmike27 Oct 2012 #15
All for cheaper prices treestar Oct 2012 #20
We will never sell China more than they sell us. Please stop entertaining that fantasy. Zalatix Oct 2012 #27
Bingo. I can't believe they still trot out that same canard about exporting our way out of this Populist_Prole Oct 2012 #41
What would that be? tama Oct 2012 #75
That is a popular fiction. America developed because we stole some of the best real estate on earth. Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #107
Millions of Americans do live and work outside the US grantcart Oct 2012 #3
We have over 10 million unemployed here in America. Zalatix Oct 2012 #8
your OP isn't about 10 million jobless its about a zenophobic and hate filled rant against grantcart Oct 2012 #14
My post is NOT xenophobic. Your dishonest post shows a total CONTEMPT for American workers. Zalatix Oct 2012 #18
Seriously, fuck calling people xenophobic for looking out for US jobs. nt Union Scribe Oct 2012 #28
I have a problem with this post joeglow3 Oct 2012 #155
But but Berserker Oct 2012 #21
XENOPHOBE!!! Zalatix Oct 2012 #24
Yup. K&R You are SO on a roll with this thread. closeupready Oct 2012 #73
I stand on the shoulders of giants. LOTS of DUers have helped me get informed on this issue. Zalatix Oct 2012 #74
I don't consider immigration a free trade issue cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #4
What about undocumented immigration? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2012 #9
The problem with a fence is not that it is unjust, it is cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #10
Other nations have stricter immigration laws than we do. Zalatix Oct 2012 #11
And they are welcome to cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #12
Before we talk immigration tama Oct 2012 #22
Millions, yes you read write, millions nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #25
Canada requires you to have a job to move there. They don't need a job to move here. Zalatix Oct 2012 #30
Really, have you ever tried to get a green card? nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #34
How does that compare to being poor and moving to Canada? Or Mexico? Or China? Or... Poland? Zalatix Oct 2012 #37
Now that you mention it I could move back to any EU country nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #40
You may not be a 'xenophobe' but the term gets thrown around for good reason. pampango Oct 2012 #58
Like I said before, fine, bring 'em in, it's not like we have any jobs. Zalatix Oct 2012 #59
Are you a truck driver? Are you willing to live in the middle of rural Canada? Nikia Oct 2012 #87
Bullshit Union Scribe Oct 2012 #31
Again you are conflating above board legal immigration nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #35
Less than 2 million. There are more Canadian citizens working in the U.S. than U.S. citizens Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #108
Not according to state nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #111
What is, according to State, the number? I got mine from tax records (IRS). n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #121
4-6 millions nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #124
Speaking as a foreigner who lives in the U.S. and hires people from all over the world for jobs WilmywoodNCparalegal Oct 2012 #29
Oh my goodness treestar Oct 2012 #33
I would not mind nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #38
Oh boy. Zalatix Oct 2012 #39
There are reams of books on immigration patterns nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #42
Jesus, I'm going to faint. Zalatix Oct 2012 #43
Sorry, I forgot the German colony nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #44
I just want parity between us looking for jobs "over there" and them looking for jobs here. Zalatix Oct 2012 #45
That is the US, by tradition we have been a nation nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #48
You know what, fuck it, let them come. There's no jobs but let 'em come. Zalatix Oct 2012 #50
You can bow all you want nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #52
I don't think our peaches will go to $10 a pound Zalatix Oct 2012 #60
What also happened in the last depression was... nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #79
Well, this time around the problem is a total lack of jobs. Zalatix Oct 2012 #80
How incredibly ignorant can you be nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #81
Okay, hold, stop. Now YOU are the one who is ignorant. Zalatix Oct 2012 #84
Take it with the Christian Monitor nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #85
No comments about immigrants unionizing? No comments about immigrant factory workers? Zalatix Oct 2012 #88
Good bye, I have had it nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #89
Yup, goodbye. You've been busted spouting falsehoods and trying to misdirect the discussion. Zalatix Oct 2012 #90
"If I were an unemployed American, I'd move across the border to get a job if I could." NCTraveler Oct 2012 #131
So what are the unemployed to do here? Starve? Zalatix Oct 2012 #133
You are clearly not serious. nt. NCTraveler Oct 2012 #135
You clearly have no solutions to offer our unemployed. Zalatix Oct 2012 #136
Nothing that will top your yearning to send Americans to Mexico for employment. NCTraveler Oct 2012 #137
Why shouldn't they go where the jobs are? Where would you say to go? Zalatix Oct 2012 #139
Show me the labor statistics for Mexico. And the violence rate while you are at it. NCTraveler Oct 2012 #153
I asked you the question first: where are our unemployed going to go? Zalatix Oct 2012 #154
This message was self-deleted by its author HiPointDem Oct 2012 #114
There are few things easier in the world than being an American working abroad, Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2012 #64
Nice fantasy, that. Zalatix Oct 2012 #65
Please list the countries in which you were denied work visas. Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2012 #67
Please list the countries that let in C-students from America to work there. Zalatix Oct 2012 #68
So you acknowledge you have never sought or been denied foreign employment Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2012 #69
So you admit you were blowing smoke! That will do. Zalatix Oct 2012 #70
What is lame is your persisant appeals to authority on a multitude of subjects Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2012 #71
You are not one to accuse anyone of being ignorant, considering you're CONSTANTLY in error. Zalatix Oct 2012 #72
EU tama Oct 2012 #95
This is ofcourse qualified with the expectation you're legally sponsored by an employer... Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2012 #96
Or work the factory line. nt tama Oct 2012 #97
Canada has a "points based" visa system, and admits virtually ZERO unskilled immigrants. Romulox Oct 2012 #140
Who said anything about unskilled labor? Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2012 #152
If I could teleport I'd eat in Italy everyday abelenkpe Oct 2012 #76
Why should people -- americans, indians, or anyone else -- be forced to move halfway around HiPointDem Oct 2012 #46
Good points! X 1000 Zalatix Oct 2012 #47
Your point tama Oct 2012 #61
Happening right now abelenkpe Oct 2012 #77
it's happened all through history. it's what capitalism does -- destroy communities, families and HiPointDem Oct 2012 #78
Why because it makes the rich (just a bit!) richer, of course. nt Romulox Oct 2012 #141
I will leave it to others to decide what is fair and unfair. I would just like to be honest ... twins.fan Oct 2012 #51
+1. they're liars and they should be called on it on a daily basis. history shows very clearly how HiPointDem Oct 2012 #146
There are millions of Americans working abroad. And, I don't mean just the US Army. leveymg Oct 2012 #53
A surplus of $100 billion and yet tons of American STEM workers are jobless, and wages not rising? Zalatix Oct 2012 #54
Current STEM (IT industry, medicine) unemployment is 4.5-5.5% leveymg Oct 2012 #55
O'rly? Zalatix Oct 2012 #56
VDARE is not a reliable source. It's an anti-immigrant blog. leveymg Oct 2012 #57
Read DATA, what is this thing you speak off? nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #83
Nice site you linked to. NCTraveler Oct 2012 #134
3 to 6 million *living* abroad, not *working*. < than 2% of the us population and some are HiPointDem Oct 2012 #115
If 50% are employed, that's still millions of Americans working abroad. leveymg Oct 2012 #128
if half are working, it's .4 to .96% of the total US population. whereas about 8% of the us HiPointDem Oct 2012 #132
Look at it this way: what percentage of the current accounts balance is $170 billion? That's the leveymg Oct 2012 #138
55% of our global trade in services exports comes from 1) travel, passenger fares & HiPointDem Oct 2012 #145
If you think 10 million US jobs is "a pittance", then you may just have a point. leveymg Oct 2012 #147
show me the evidence of global trade in service creating 10 million jobs in the us for americans. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #148
So the roughly 7 million US Expatriates don't work for a living? Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2012 #62
That is a PITTANCE compared to the number of immigrants we have here. Zalatix Oct 2012 #63
you said "why aren't Americans needed for jobs elsewhere?" Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2012 #66
not if they're retirees or students. the country with the largest number of expats = mexico. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #116
"Workers of the WORLD Unite" is still the answer. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #82
Bingo, but that ain't gonna happen unless nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #86
You might want to read this, then Zalatix Oct 2012 #91
Immigrant unionizing tama Oct 2012 #93
I've heard of them, but not a lot about them. Thanks for the info! Zalatix Oct 2012 #94
Here Zorra Oct 2012 #92
How's that Know-Nothingism working out for you there? Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #98
Socratically, obviously tama Oct 2012 #99
... Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #100
Interesting tama Oct 2012 #101
How's the half-truths working out for you? Zalatix Oct 2012 #102
"not nearly"? You're wrong, actually Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #103
How intellectually dishonest of you. Zalatix Oct 2012 #104
Not intellectually dishonest at all Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #105
I'm not moving any goalposts. I was talking about immigrants, period, legal or not. Zalatix Oct 2012 #106
Have you had a look at the economic situation in Europe? Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #109
Learn to read. I was not talking about Governments determining what countries people emigrate to. Zalatix Oct 2012 #110
They aren't American jobs if it's a multinational corporation. Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #112
the economy has always been global. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #117
"They aren't American jobs if it's a multinational corporation." You can go tell that fairy tale to Zalatix Oct 2012 #122
"Unionise the world's working class"... Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #123
You just keep telling yourself that. Zalatix Oct 2012 #125
It's funny how your "solution" to poverty in other countries makes the rich in the US richer. Romulox Oct 2012 #151
The neo-liberalism has given us 30 plus years of stagnant wages, decreasing lifespans for children, Romulox Oct 2012 #142
There are other factors at work there. Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #149
Um Spidey? The complaint isn't about the size of the GDP. It's about INEQUALITY. Wrap your Romulox Oct 2012 #150
sure are a lot of cheap-labor democrats these days. 'investors' i surmise. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #118
It's Friedman's "Flat Earth" philosophy - economics in terms of investment possibilities. haele Oct 2012 #126
A lot of companies do outsource jobs here 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #127
The unique part of American history is that.... NCTraveler Oct 2012 #129
As the unemployment problem grows, that's going to change. Zalatix Oct 2012 #144
I know, I know. I drive my KIA SOUL all over the place, asking people "Where are the jobs????" Romulox Oct 2012 #143
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