Well come on, it's holding his feet to the fire (Reply #103)

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Sun Jan 3, 2021, 09:41 PM

treestar (80,769 posts)

103. Well come on, it's holding his feet to the fire

when it's President Obama, it's OK for AOC and others to attack Democrats, making the OP most unreasonable in demanding that she, the criticizer, not be criticized herself. AOC should knock if off too then, as should other progressives. Next time Biden is called a corporatist or Hillary a warmonger, I will remember this.

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174 replies	Author	Time	Post
Seriously need to knock off the AOC hate here [View all]	berni_mccoy	Jan 2021	OP
K & R	Just_Vote_Dem	Jan 2021	#1
+1	Bettie	Jan 2021	#2
She backed Pelosi two years ago, too...	regnaD kciN	Jan 2021	#3
C-SPAN	Deuxcents	Jan 2021	#4
This message was self-deleted by its author	Cobalt Violet	Jan 2021	#20
I was surprised that	DownriverDem	Jan 2021	#49
I suggest positive posts with her name attached, not this kind of thing.	Hortensis	Jan 2021	#5
Little Dissident Donors	Roy Rolling	Jan 2021	#18
Nah.	GB_RN	Jan 2021	#53
It's even simpler than that. They just hate hope.	jaxexpat	Jan 2021	#140
Yes. Not tooting my horn but this is the quickest example I can find.	ancianita	Jan 2021	#22
Its' good to call out hate.	Cobalt Violet	Jan 2021	#42
Hi, little 'dissident donor' to AOC here who also supports Pelosi as Speaker and is thrilled that	ramen	Jan 2021	#60
Ramen, those who support both are of course not	Hortensis	Jan 2021	#89
That must be an example of the "positive posts with her name attached"	Mariana	Jan 2021	#167
I couldn't resist going over to that weird place that used to have Bernie Sanders on their homepage	betsuni	Jan 2021	#78
Oh, my to that last. nt	Hortensis	Jan 2021	#84
Still trying to figure out #ForceTheVote -- apparently The Squad was supposed to do a quid pro quo	betsuni	Jan 2021	#95
:) Just looked. Uygur's sounding like a beacon of responsibility (!)	Hortensis	Jan 2021	#110
Uh oh, under the bus go Cenk and TYT.	betsuni	Jan 2021	#111
:) Typical puritopian (how's that for a word?) dysfunction.	Hortensis	Jan 2021	#112
They seem to think Pelosi is the only roadblock to an MFA vote.	betsuni	Jan 2021	#113
Astonishingly. If this were really about healthcare,	Hortensis	Jan 2021	#119
Yes, it isn't about health care.	betsuni	Jan 2021	#124
I agree that it isn't about healthcare	PatSeg	Jan 2021	#144
No, not quite! :) Those like them in the New Deal era fought	Hortensis	Jan 2021	#154
I think many of them	PatSeg	Jan 2021	#156
You became more knowledgeable and sophisticated. Same for me,	Hortensis	Jan 2021	#157
Oh yes, same here	PatSeg	Jan 2021	#158
Hey, was that you? :)	Hortensis	Jan 2021	#161
"call....themselves crusaders to excuse their rage"	PatSeg	Jan 2021	#164
So agree with so much. A little problem with some whose ideals	Hortensis	Jan 2021	#165
I've enjoyed this discussion so much, very stimulating	PatSeg	Jan 2021	#166
A discussion of extremism. It's a real thing and we need	Hortensis	Jan 2021	#168
I was working in downtown Chicago during the trial	PatSeg	Jan 2021	#169
Oh, wow! What a place to be. Definitely better than cable. :)	Hortensis	Jan 2021	#172
P.S. You're in Georgia?	PatSeg	Jan 2021	#170
I don't really see any such hate here either	PatSeg	Jan 2021	#143
What can you do? Pavlovian reflex. Foamers gonna foam.	jalan48	Jan 2021	#6
+1	Gore1FL	Jan 2021	#51
it's too easy	stillcool	Jan 2021	#7
She backed Pelosi	MustLoveBeagles	Jan 2021	#8
When her name was called during her round she did not vote.	George II	Jan 2021	#10
Maybe she was in the bathroom? Do you know why she wasn't there?	berni_mccoy	Jan 2021	#15
Thanks	Dem4Life1102	Jan 2021	#32
If only the vote was called alphabetically so she would have	Hortensis	Jan 2021	#91
+100000000	Celerity	Jan 2021	#116
That's true	MustLoveBeagles	Jan 2021	#28
Yes	Dem4Life1102	Jan 2021	#35
I'm willing to give AOC the benefit of the doubt on this	MustLoveBeagles	Jan 2021	#43
Exactly	Dem4Life1102	Jan 2021	#45
+100000000000000000000000000000000 x 2	AmyStrange	Jan 2021	#171
Sometimes that is strategic.	Blue_true	Jan 2021	#71
Others who said this about her	zentrum	Jan 2021	#29
Three words:	ShazzieB	Jan 2021	#44
Can't we all just get along?	paleotn	Jan 2021	#67
Passing this on	rpannier	Jan 2021	#75
i'm glad i've missed them.	barbtries	Jan 2021	#9
Exactly. Enough already!	dchill	Jan 2021	#11
It's been in question before	treestar	Jan 2021	#12
Agreed. She is a helpful firebrand for sure and that's what the party needs sometimes!	Miigwech	Jan 2021	#13
Yes! Yes! Yes!	zentrum	Jan 2021	#27
Agreed.	ShazzieB	Jan 2021	#46
Way too many negative and divisive posts about AOC.	PufPuf23	Jan 2021	#14
Agree wholeheartedly	gibraltar72	Jan 2021	#16
I agree. She is a very bright young woman with an outstanding wit. I disagree with her...	NNadir	Jan 2021	#17
I agree with you. I am disgusted by the attempts to turn AOC into an 'other'.	MerryBlooms	Jan 2021	#34
Agreed	matt819	Jan 2021	#19
Agreed	BigOleDummy	Jan 2021	#152
Totally agree!	denvine	Jan 2021	#21
There is a level of woman bashing on DU unfortunately.	Srkdqltr	Jan 2021	#23
Agree with you 100%	zentrum	Jan 2021	#24
Agree, she's an overall plus for Dems	DeminPennswoods	Jan 2021	#25
I didn't see most of them.	Cobalt Violet	Jan 2021	#26
Me too. One of the reasons I took a long vacation from DU.	Tommymac	Jan 2021	#38
Yes, it's time to form a circular firing squad; ...	JustABozoOnThisBus	Jan 2021	#30
R&K 'lulz', 'bazinga', hand waving, back slapping, and especially let me add the	MerryBlooms	Jan 2021	#31
Mine was one. Rep Conner Lamb Western PA.	Tommymac	Jan 2021	#36
Thank you for the information.	MerryBlooms	Jan 2021	#48
Yes he did. I live in his district.	Tommymac	Jan 2021	#50
This is why I love DU. I learn so much every day.	MerryBlooms	Jan 2021	#62
Younger generation Reps like AOC give me hope for the future. They are human, they will make	yaesu	Jan 2021	#33
This 👆	flibbitygiblets	Jan 2021	#66
I admire her tremendously	keithsw	Jan 2021	#37
This	Tommymac	Jan 2021	#39
Agreed, and thank you.	liberalmuse	Jan 2021	#40
It's done intentionally to provoke and divide & is unhealthy.	appalachiablue	Jan 2021	#41
AOC is not allowed to be pragmatic.	athenasatanjesus	Jan 2021	#47
Bit off topic here aren't you?	Cobalt Violet	Jan 2021	#55
Well said...	AmyStrange	Jan 2021	#52
Build bridges not fences	Always Randy	Jan 2021	#54
I agree. I hope to live long enough to see her in leadership.	marble falls	Jan 2021	#56
she is the future of the party.	dawn5651	Jan 2021	#57
All the election results don't really support this,	R B Garr	Jan 2021	#81
only the present matters	treestar	Jan 2021	#104
+100000000000000000000000000000000 x 2	AmyStrange	Jan 2021	#162
I don't hate AOC	Cyberologist	Jan 2021	#58
This message was self-deleted by its author	Celerity	Jan 2021	#117
In what way is AOC a backstabber? That's a vicious attack against an elected Democratic House Member	Celerity	Jan 2021	#121
This message was self-deleted by its author	MrsCoffee	Jan 2021	#127
AOC said Joe Biden wouldn't be in the same party as she in another country because	betsuni	Jan 2021	#130
Of course she would not be, as the US is one of the very few Western democracies with no	Celerity	Jan 2021	#131
Not the point. It's not true that Biden is a neoliberal corporatist and isn't progressive.	betsuni	Jan 2021	#163
As well as the corollary.	LanternWaste	Jan 2021	#59
She's a hard working Democratic Congresswoman	berni_mccoy	Jan 2021	#61
No one is arguing differently.	LanternWaste	Jan 2021	#63
What does that mean exactly. I certainly see way more negative comments than anything like that	berni_mccoy	Jan 2021	#65
There are specific definitions to each word I used.	LanternWaste	Jan 2021	#69
I don't think you know what the words you are using mean or imply	berni_mccoy	Jan 2021	#73
You nailed it, berni	mtnsnake	Jan 2021	#79
+100000000000000000000000000000000 x 2	AmyStrange	Jan 2021	#80
They know, they are just calling a young, bright democratic congressperson a cow	questionseverything	Jan 2021	#82
Dehumanizing. 'Other'.	MerryBlooms	Jan 2021	#93
Now that's reaching	treestar	Jan 2021	#101
She is a sacred cow if we cannot criticize	treestar	Jan 2021	#99
Yesterday, she was criticized based on a lie that she voted against Pelosi.	Mariana	Jan 2021	#160
+1	betsuni	Jan 2021	#76
+10000000	AmericanCanuck	Jan 2021	#173
Is the way we fawn over Biden & Harris wrong too?	AmyStrange	Jan 2021	#85
'No one is arguing differently.'	Celerity	Jan 2021	#122
So did President Obama, but if we didn't like criticism of him	treestar	Jan 2021	#97
It was feet held to the fire; echo chamber, rah rah cheerleaders, fan club, blind loyalty,	betsuni	Jan 2021	#108
Exactly. I'm not her mother. I reserve the same rights to	R B Garr	Jan 2021	#77
Mostly, it's what others 'critique' and bestow upon AOC. Even when correcting the record,	MerryBlooms	Jan 2021	#83
No it's not what others bestow on her. It's excused	R B Garr	Jan 2021	#87
lulz	MerryBlooms	Jan 2021	#88
lulz	R B Garr	Jan 2021	#100
+1	treestar	Jan 2021	#96
"It's" vs. "its"	cwydro	Jan 2021	#132
Absolutely agree.	Jay25	Jan 2021	#64
or any circular firing behavior	greenman3610	Jan 2021	#68
+1...	myohmy2	Jan 2021	#70
K and R	Ferrets are Cool	Jan 2021	#72
These people have obviously never listened to the Breakfast Club	rpannier	Jan 2021	#74
Which makes these kind of stunts aggravating	dansolo	Jan 2021	#125
Don't attack Democrats!!!!	dustyscamp	Jan 2021	#86
The irony of it all...	AmyStrange	Jan 2021	#92
AOC voted for Pelosi today. She did the right thing.	MerryBlooms	Jan 2021	#94
Sorry for meandering	AmyStrange	Jan 2021	#98
Well come on, it's holding his feet to the fire	treestar	Jan 2021	#103
Personally, I find it funny...	AmyStrange	Jan 2021	#106
What I posted wasn't about Obama or Pelsoi it was about the hypocrisy of the Anti AOC Clique here	dustyscamp	Jan 2021	#114
+100	Celerity	Jan 2021	#134
Or except if AOC does it	treestar	Jan 2021	#102
+1000	Celerity	Jan 2021	#120
Attack any Democrat you want	MrsCoffee	Jan 2021	#126
If AOC can attack other Democrats	AmericanCanuck	Jan 2021	#174
Indeed. The Speakership isn't a hereditary position	Tarc	Jan 2021	#90
K&R	mvd	Jan 2021	#105
!!!AOC RULES!!!	AmyStrange	Jan 2021	#107
Recommended.	H2O Man	Jan 2021	#109
K&R	Blue Owl	Jan 2021	#115
+1,000,000 This! K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!	diva77	Jan 2021	#118
And a million cheers for incitement of what we deplore!	Hortensis	Jan 2021	#138
not sure i understand your post	diva77	Jan 2021	#148
It's commending the utility of this OP, which can be different	Hortensis	Jan 2021	#155
I don't hate her and she's free to do what she feels is best as far as I'm concerned	Kaleva	Jan 2021	#123
So, any criticism is "hate" or "bashing".....	brooklynite	Jan 2021	#128
How about people falsely claiming that she didn't vote for Pelosi	Dem4Life1102	Jan 2021	#137
Criticizing her for not voting for Pelosi as speaker	Mariana	Jan 2021	#139
oh never mind. nt	PufPuf23	Jan 2021	#142
It was 5 Centrist Dems that failed to vote for Pelosi, not the Progressive Dems.	Sloumeau	Jan 2021	#129
I say let them eat cake...	AmyStrange	Jan 2021	#133
I agree	BlueJac	Jan 2021	#135
Let's win the GA Runoffs and get our Senate Majority, then	BlueWavePsych	Jan 2021	#136
Yep.	Lunabell	Jan 2021	#141
Yes, just stop it!	McKim	Jan 2021	#145
This is not the time for division and acrimony.	BobTheSubgenius	Jan 2021	#146
Agreed.	Ingersollman	Jan 2021	#147
I think that we need to come to an agreement on "Hate" versus "Criticism".	Caliman73	Jan 2021	#149
People who feel compelled to make up lies about her	Mariana	Jan 2021	#159
Why is it even considered wrong to begin with? This group	Laura PourMeADrink	Jan 2021	#150
Post removed	Post removed	Jan 2021	#151
Oh come on. The OP doesn't "cry and stomp their feet anytime someone criticizes her"	mtnsnake	Jan 2021	#153

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