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MattBaggins

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52. You must meet the same standards that the public schools must if you are to

Thu Oct 4, 2012, 04:41 PM

Oct 2012

receive public monies. Your school could work out with the public system to provide you with kunches and of course charge the appropriate fees for doing so or the funds that your school recieves should be docked for not providing full school requirements.

Public schools are trashed by ever moving standards and used as excuses to demand charter schools who then do not have to follow the same standards.

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Some charter schools don't feed their students free lunches. Gov. Jerry Brown (D) is cool with that. [View all] KamaAina Oct 2012 OP

kr HiPointDem Oct 2012 #1

I work in a charter school chillfactor Oct 2012 #2

look around liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #7

So all your students come from families that can afford to make lunches? KamaAina Oct 2012 #9

Not so unlikely, because some charter schools have ways of avoiding 'those' students. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #54

Indeed. KamaAina Oct 2012 #55

yeah, none of the charter schools DUers support are like that, apparently. they're all wonderful HiPointDem Oct 2012 #64

Well maybe some are that wonderful. wildeyed Oct 2012 #71

If a student lives in a district, s/he has to be provided an education in a district. That's the HiPointDem Oct 2012 #74

So ditto for charter schools. wildeyed Oct 2012 #82

a charter does *not* have to accept all students from its district, nor does it have to follow the HiPointDem Oct 2012 #87

True, the rules are a bit different. wildeyed Oct 2012 #90

cafeterias and food cut into corporate profits and management bonuses. can't have that nt msongs Oct 2012 #16

Speaking of 'simple-minded,' none so blind as those with eyes who will not see. Jeesh - n/t coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #23

My kids goes to a Title 1 charter school. wildeyed Oct 2012 #29

This is a Federal program KamaAina Oct 2012 #41

That would be something to shoot for. wildeyed Oct 2012 #44

If you can not provide the same standards that the public schools MUST MattBaggins Oct 2012 #46

Whatever. wildeyed Oct 2012 #50

You must meet the same standards that the public schools must if you are to MattBaggins Oct 2012 #52

But they *don't* have to meet the same standards to receive federal money. That's the point. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #58

I agree and I think it is wrong. MattBaggins Oct 2012 #66

It's actually pretty astonishing what NC charters don't have to do. Don't have to do lunches, HiPointDem Oct 2012 #57

And that is how charter schools keep poor children out. Luminous Animal Oct 2012 #48

Well it's not working at ours. wildeyed Oct 2012 #49

No lunches and no transportation are what keeps many people without means from applying Luminous Animal Oct 2012 #53

Schools that provide lunches are reimbursed. And as initially, the only charter authorizers in NC HiPointDem Oct 2012 #56

I have heard about other states that work like that. wildeyed Oct 2012 #69

it's not a complicated issue. it's very simple. there's nothing that charter schools do that HiPointDem Oct 2012 #76

Nope. wildeyed Oct 2012 #83

there is nothing charter schools do that public schools can't do. there's nothing charter schools HiPointDem Oct 2012 #86

I never said any of that. wildeyed Oct 2012 #89

and if they can't afford a good lunch? It says they qualify for it DonRedwood Oct 2012 #32

You cherry pick your students and have no low income kids i am willing to bet. MattBaggins Oct 2012 #45

We always had to pay for our lunches at school. When did they become free? kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #3

They're free, or reduced price, if you're eligible for them KamaAina Oct 2012 #5

Oh, ok, so they aren't free to everybody. From all the RW kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #21

Around 1965, I believe. Free & reduced-price lunches for families who met the income guides. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #59

In 1965, my school offered morning milk (8 ounces) for a nickel Art_from_Ark Oct 2012 #78

I qualified for reduced lunches in school davidpdx Oct 2012 #84

congratulations the Gov. Brown Tippy Oct 2012 #4

Charter schools don't charge tuition KamaAina Oct 2012 #6

I bet my autistic son wouldn't be very welcome at a charter liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #10

DING DING DING! KamaAina Oct 2012 #12

That's great KamaAina liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #14

He would be welcome at my son's charter school. wildeyed Oct 2012 #30

I have to admit it would be nice liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #42

I was able to convince them to give DS an IEP wildeyed Oct 2012 #43

My mom had to fight to get help for me when I was in public school davidpdx Oct 2012 #85

Glad you made it through and did so well for yourself. wildeyed Oct 2012 #92

In RI he would be welcomed hack89 Oct 2012 #34

*All* charter schools are public schools, in that they are funded with tax dollars. However, that's HiPointDem Oct 2012 #60

Not in RI hack89 Oct 2012 #72

I have read your posts, and I have a question... graham4anything Oct 2012 #39

jerry brown is a libertarian dino. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #61

Jerry Brown is a master politician ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #67

Jerry Brown sleeps very well at night. Not a disingenous bone in his beautiful body graham4anything Oct 2012 #73

you're sleeping with him, are you? because otherwise i don't know how you know that. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #77

we do know Sandra Dey O'Connor twists and turns (and Rehnquist burns in hell) graham4anything Oct 2012 #80

brown's policies show him to be a libertarian: liberal on (some) social policy, neo-liberal on HiPointDem Oct 2012 #88

libertarians are rightwing extremists who stroke their guns and watch others sex... graham4anything Oct 2012 #91

That was my gut reaction. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #8

Not all charters are for-profit KamaAina Oct 2012 #11

Those that are not for profit are eligible for federal lunch program funds. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #17

Even supposedly 'non-profit' charters can be profit centers. In NC, for example, charters can HiPointDem Oct 2012 #62

I think we (USA) should provide a free hot lunch for every kid in every school, CrispyQ Oct 2012 #13

well like Romney said liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #15

werd. musical_soul Oct 2012 #19

I used to highly support charters schools. musical_soul Oct 2012 #18

Charter schools are not public schools MattBaggins Oct 2012 #47

Very easy solution. Go back to public school and free lunches for those in need. Doremus Oct 2012 #20

The problem comes from many charter schools that are basically storefronts or in a few offices - haele Oct 2012 #22

At least one charter chain, Imagine, is basically built around a real-estate scam KamaAina Oct 2012 #36

Governor Brown -- comforts the comfortable and afflicts the afflicted. I will never vote for coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #24

And nary a word about the Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #33

Charter schools are not public schools, but they syphon money from public schools. Chorophyll Oct 2012 #25

Jerry Brown forever graham4anything Oct 2012 #26

Certainly I have. KamaAina Oct 2012 #37

I can only think of one reason why a charter school ... surrealAmerican Oct 2012 #27

Or it could be that the school does not have the facility to safely provide the lunch. wildeyed Oct 2012 #31

DING DING DING!!!! KamaAina Oct 2012 #38

FUCK ALL CHARTER SCHOOLS gopiscrap Oct 2012 #28

That's ridiculous. proud2BlibKansan Oct 2012 #35

I guess that parents will just send their kids to public schools so that they can get fed, right? Freddie Stubbs Oct 2012 #40

Not necessarily. We have seen this "show" before SoCalDem Oct 2012 #68

You are assuming that enough parents would send their kids to these obviously inferior Freddie Stubbs Oct 2012 #79

I never, ever, saw any lunch program in any California schools Brother Buzz Oct 2012 #51

ummm -- during the Truman & Johnson administrations? HiPointDem Oct 2012 #63

Never trikled down to my school Brother Buzz Oct 2012 #70

It's federal law, so it's hard to imagine it didn't exist in your district. Perhaps you didn't have HiPointDem Oct 2012 #75

and in many schools, great pains were taken so that the kids on the free-lunch SoCalDem Oct 2012 #81

What else will be exempted for charter schools so they can make a bigger profit? LiberalFighter Oct 2012 #65