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treestar

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96. Well said

Tue Dec 1, 2020, 01:13 PM

Dec 2020

This person has no suggestion on exactly what the national party should be doing. But it's what they should be doing locally that will matter more.

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Why Democrats Keep Losing Rural Counties Like Mine [View all] brooklynite Dec 2020 OP

trump lost RandiFan1290 Dec 2020 #1

The State Legislators we needed to pick off to control redistricting didn't... brooklynite Dec 2020 #3

democrats suck at messaging while GOP knows how to manipulate with fear. Its a winner for GOP beachbumbob Dec 2020 #2

Right elleng Dec 2020 #7

But WHY does rural America vote red? apcalc Dec 2020 #4

Obama nailed it back in 2008 and we have yet to learn by what he said. Bottom line beachbumbob Dec 2020 #11

You forgot about there being a whole lot of racism out there StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #14

I agree. Sad to admit, but there are a lot of toxic, broken people in America... Raster Dec 2020 #22

Racism and (for lack of a better word) Ruralism . . . hatrack Dec 2020 #35

This!! All of this Docreed2003 Dec 2020 #72

yes, its a messaging problem. Yes racism is at play as well and believe me the GOP USES that beachbumbob Dec 2020 #45

Oh, please StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #54

kinda like this, having control of Congress is 100x easier for GOP as long as democrats fail at beachbumbob Dec 2020 #69

The last one is probably the most important NewJeffCT Dec 2020 #19

I don't think you are being particularly honest ripcord Dec 2020 #111

In MI, Trump got far more votes in urban counties then he did in rural counties Kaleva Dec 2020 #38

I come across many of those types . I see them in liberal California in Los Angeles JI7 Dec 2020 #46

Cuz that's where all the voters live! LeftInTX Dec 2020 #91

I agree that it's change that they (and most people) fear the most Buckeyeblue Dec 2020 #48

+10,000 mtnsnake Dec 2020 #120

+1000 smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #83

Yup, that's it way more than all the racism excuses we always hear. nt mtnsnake Dec 2020 #121

"racism excuses"? StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #122

Yes, racism excuses. Exactly that mtnsnake Dec 2020 #123

Yeah StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #125

JHC I never said racism couldn't possibly be involved in their political choices. mtnsnake Dec 2020 #126

Out of fear miss-nasty Dec 2020 #12

Does that explain why so many urban voters voted for Trump? Kaleva Dec 2020 #39

I don't see how that applies. SlogginThroughIt Dec 2020 #47

Large numbers of urbanites voted for Trump Kaleva Dec 2020 #53

Ok great. That has nothing to do with the premise. SlogginThroughIt Dec 2020 #55

I am saying that concentrating on rural voters ignores the bigger problem of the urbanites.. Kaleva Dec 2020 #60

What do you mean by urban exboyfil Dec 2020 #49

Here's a link Kaleva Dec 2020 #57

Not specifically, but yes, fear explains urban Trump voters too. Caliman73 Dec 2020 #102

how to get them to fear treestar Dec 2020 #95

There are several factors, but the primary factors Roisin Ni Fiachra Dec 2020 #20

Same shit over and over again . We have heard from them why they vote Republican JI7 Dec 2020 #5

This author then goes on to blame national Democrats for not doing enough for rural communities StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #6

There are undoubtedly cultural and race issues MontanaFarmer Dec 2020 #21

The fact that this author doesn't even mention race or racism us very telling StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #33

Public school private school for all intents and purposes exboyfil Dec 2020 #61

It would not help but I would love to shove the fact that blue, urban areas are PaulRevere08 Dec 2020 #42

If you tell them that, they simply refuse to believe it. Mariana Dec 2020 #87

Why did 40 percent of DEMOCRATS in West Virginia vote for a Felon against Obama ? JI7 Dec 2020 #8

"Legacy" Democrats. maxsolomon Dec 2020 #86

Meaty article with great points about high speed internet access and anti-trust legislation. femmedem Dec 2020 #9

They won't they want to think that all rural redstatebluegirl Dec 2020 #37

Like a Jewish doctor treating a Nazi patient scrabblequeen40 Dec 2020 #10

They may be voting against their ECONOMIC interests, but they have other interests StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #17

It's racism. Turin_C3PO Dec 2020 #13

Racism plays a part RazzleCat Dec 2020 #62

Ah, another Politico "Dems in disarray" durablend Dec 2020 #15

It's necessary to 'catapult the propaganda' RandiFan1290 Dec 2020 #18

I know, right? StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #26

+1000000000000000000 betsuni Dec 2020 #128

Yes, another tired worn out Cletus safari into the hinterlands. BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #81

"...the national Democratic Party has not offered rural voters a clear vision... Raster Dec 2020 #16

...but what exactly does the national Republican Party offer rural voters? In It to Win It Dec 2020 #23

Talking about stuff like gun control really doesn't help win rural voters ansible Dec 2020 #24

If responsible gun safety measures loses them, then screw them StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #28

What are you talking about? Show me one piece of evidence of "Biden's proposals bullwinkle428 Dec 2020 #30

They accuse Democrats of coming for their guns anyway jcgoldie Dec 2020 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #80

I'm not sold on this argument frazzled Dec 2020 #25

Well said treestar Dec 2020 #96

For everyone reflexively yelling "racism", the author says that Obama won the County twice... brooklynite Dec 2020 #27

Obama winning the county twice doesn't mean that racism isn't behind Trump's wins StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #29

This county also voted Democratic in the 2000, 2004, 1996, 1992, 1988 LeftInTX Dec 2020 #104

Just about every racist I have met has "black friends" jcgoldie Dec 2020 #44

OBama avoided talking about racism and played to their "post racial" bs JI7 Dec 2020 #50

Obama won SlowHio twice. HughBeaumont Dec 2020 #76

That does not mean that they aren't racist treestar Dec 2020 #99

Lived on an Illinois farm my entire life jcgoldie Dec 2020 #31

CORRECT Skittles Dec 2020 #124

If they don't think Democrats take them seriously, why do they support Repubs who have done nothing? LonePirate Dec 2020 #32

Republicans especially trump has kacekwl Dec 2020 #34

I live in a rural area Chainfire Dec 2020 #36

+1000 llmart Dec 2020 #40

It feels like taking a step backwards in time - it is the late 1950's, early 1960's again BelieveCassandra Dec 2020 #58

Amen. NT Happy Hoosier Dec 2020 #67

The author is overlooking the fact that a very large number of urbanites voted for Trump. Kaleva Dec 2020 #43

But the majority of urbanites did not. Mariana Dec 2020 #90

"Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives..." Hortensis Dec 2020 #51

An interesting article, and as one or two other posters have said thucythucy Dec 2020 #52

Well done. Thank you. n/t OneGrassRoot Dec 2020 #56

Excellent point- The right wing anti-American hate radio is no doubt the driver here RAB910 Dec 2020 #63

"this to me feels quite delusional" joshcryer Dec 2020 #92

Thank you. I've been saying this for a long time. But not as eloquently. GoneOffShore Dec 2020 #109

Collective Narcissism OneGrassRoot Dec 2020 #59

In this area the economy was built on coal and steel. People blame Democrats for the loss of doc03 Dec 2020 #64

Plus Conservative TV and Radio is all across Rural America. The Democratic message is never heard. UCmeNdc Dec 2020 #65

That doesn't account for the large number of urban voters who voted for Trump Kaleva Dec 2020 #66

This is a large part of the problem rockfordfile Dec 2020 #74

It's also in the churches. Mariana Dec 2020 #94

More of this bullshit. Happy Hoosier Dec 2020 #68

This! StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #70

Lots of willful ignorance rownesheck Dec 2020 #71

"I sure hate this arson, but the arsonists just make more compelling points than the firefighters." HughBeaumont Dec 2020 #73

I don't get the obsession with rural counties/voters. ..... marmar Dec 2020 #75

It's not obsession but dealing with electoral facts Bradshaw3 Dec 2020 #77

Jesus Bigredhunk Dec 2020 #78

Trump is their "Larry the Cable Guy" LeftInTX Dec 2020 #112

REPUBLICAN and RURAL BIGOTS LOST. GET OVER IT Nimble_Idea Dec 2020 #79

I'm so tired of this "Democrats have done nothing for us" bs excuse Docreed2003 Dec 2020 #82

Well said. maxsolomon Dec 2020 #97

Funny how, although we are culturally separated, here in TN it's similar nonsense Docreed2003 Dec 2020 #101

So, when Dems TRY to help Rural Counties maxsolomon Dec 2020 #106

White people who identify most strongly with white christian culture. BusyBeingBest Dec 2020 #84

Definitely tribal treestar Dec 2020 #100

Rural Americans live in their own selfish self-idealized world. joshcryer Dec 2020 #85

Decades of conservative talk radio has done its damage Seasider Dec 2020 #117

Why Democrats keep winning Urban Counties like mine maxsolomon Dec 2020 #88

The second to last sentence nailed it.... bluecollar2 Dec 2020 #89

Electrification didn't do it, I guess? maxsolomon Dec 2020 #110

Did you read the eighteen words I cited? bluecollar2 Dec 2020 #116

I did. I've read similar over the years. maxsolomon Dec 2020 #119

OK, so does he know what the national party could say or do? treestar Dec 2020 #93

In Forks, Wa while we were visiting family, a few years back ismnotwasm Dec 2020 #98

Did you read the Vice profile on the "Antifa Schoolbus" incident? maxsolomon Dec 2020 #107

Oh I did! ismnotwasm Dec 2020 #114

"Different Side", huh? maxsolomon Dec 2020 #115

I think it was something like that, blaming the victim ismnotwasm Dec 2020 #118

"let's ask why Dems lost counties that are 90% white without ever mentioning race or racism" Spider Jerusalem Dec 2020 #103

Living in a similar setting the only thing Rs Cosmocat Dec 2020 #105

This nonsense is easily rebutted by asking: What is the GOP's appeal to rural voters? Azathoth Dec 2020 #108

Honestly, articles like this one always sound like bullshit to me. dawg Dec 2020 #113

Not just ineffective in rural areas. pat_k Dec 2020 #127

Exactly what "clear vision that speaks to their lived experiences" do Republicans offer? Silent3 Dec 2020 #129

Exactly. betsuni Dec 2020 #131

Blame Democrats when your state is run by Republicans, Trump was your president for four years, betsuni Dec 2020 #130