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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
127. That's up to the DOJ, not Biden.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:55 PM
Nov 2020
First, the attorney general must conduct a top-to-bottom review of the DOJ to identify where politicization has influenced investigations, charging decisions, sentencing recommendations, and the like. There should be a particular focus on instances in which Trump administration allies received special treatment or opponents of his administration were targeted. This type of special treatment violates the DOJ’s Justice Manual, which states that “legal judgments of the Department of Justice must be impartial and insulated from political influence.” Where possible, decisions that have been improperly influenced must be revisited.

Second, nonpartisan career prosecutors must be allowed to pursue evidence of wrongdoing without political interference. If officials in the Trump administration—career or political—have broken the law, they must be treated like everyone else and held to account.

Third, there must be a recognition of the breadth of corruption across the executive branch. This problem is bigger than the White House and its current occupant. Throughout government, a culture of corruption has set in, where officials put their own interests before the public interest. A number of agency heads in the Trump administration have been forced to resign due to corruption scandals.
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.As the Justice Manual makes clear:

The legal judgments of the Department of Justice must be impartial and insulated from political influence. It is imperative that the Department’s investigatory and prosecutorial powers be exercised free from partisan consideration. It is a fundamental duty of every employee of the Department to ensure that these principles are upheld in all of the Department’s legal endeavors.


https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/democracy/reports/2020/08/05/488773/future-president-can-hold-trump-administration-accountable/
Let the States deal with him Abnredleg Nov 2020 #1
He does, but his Attorney General and US Attorneys can focus on this n/t DonaldsRump Nov 2020 #3
Exactly! Duppers Nov 2020 #50
He said that independent attys can focus on it. ehrnst Nov 2020 #107
Interesting thread on this DonaldsRump Nov 2020 #2
thank you riversedge Nov 2020 #22
I disagree superpatriotman Nov 2020 #4
The ghost of Watergate looms. empedocles Nov 2020 #6
Exactly. They are still committing crimes today. bullimiami Nov 2020 #8
Wholly agreed empedocles Nov 2020 #5
If Trump refuses to leave, he can kiss his 2024 hopes goodbye apnu Nov 2020 #7
His cult loves to call him "a fighter" Ohiogal Nov 2020 #9
or will they bdamomma Nov 2020 #95
Let the states have him...he will pardon himself or get Pence to do it for him. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #10
Trump will not refuse to leave on Jan. 20 Chainfire Nov 2020 #11
"he would leave decisions up to an independent Justice Department." JI7 Nov 2020 #12
I agree 100% Sunsky Nov 2020 #13
This Meowmee Nov 2020 #16
It can't be any further divided Blue Owl Nov 2020 #14
Biden also said that he wouldn't get involved but would let his DOJ handle this StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #15
I agree bdamomma Nov 2020 #97
What would Republicans do? gab13by13 Nov 2020 #17
I saw this coming a mile off. No investigations will pave the way for more trumps. tman Nov 2020 #18
EXACTLY!!! Trueblue Texan Nov 2020 #21
And it's not the first time bdamomma Nov 2020 #98
Did you actually read the article? Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #25
And...this... Duppers Nov 2020 #52
Losing in 22 and 24 will likely get Trump reelected. We have to make good on our promises as to Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #70
Who said there would be no investigations? Those will be up to the DOJ. Do you think that they don't ehrnst Nov 2020 #110
Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #19
How about giving Biden a chance Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #26
Biden had better worry that letting Trump et.al. walk... Trueblue Texan Nov 2020 #20
Exactly. triron Nov 2020 #23
Exactly! Duppers Nov 2020 #53
Going after Trump in a big way and losing the next two elections is more likely to do this...and we Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #79
The DOJ can investigate and prosecute without a word from Biden, and by law has to. ehrnst Nov 2020 #111
It is not nor should it be Biden's decision. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #134
Or maybe that's just public posturing to coax the manchild into conceding. marmar Nov 2020 #24
Fucking Republicans won't even admit, let alone congratulate, Joe on victory. Kid Berwyn Nov 2020 #27
😅 Duppers Nov 2020 #58
At some point you have to say enough is ENOUGH Meowmee Nov 2020 #28
That is the job of the DOJ, and the states where he committed crimes. ehrnst Nov 2020 #31
Did I say anything about the whiltehouse? Meowmee Nov 2020 #51
The OP you were responding to was about the President elect, yes? ehrnst Nov 2020 #54
I am against Meowmee Nov 2020 #57
So that's a yes, you are talking about the WH? ehrnst Nov 2020 #60
talking about what is said by Biden, as I already explained. Meowmee Nov 2020 #63
So, that's a yes, you were talking about the WH. ehrnst Nov 2020 #64
No I am talking about the prez elect Meowmee Nov 2020 #68
The President elect is indeed the WH in terms of discussing the OP. ehrnst Nov 2020 #106
The point is to save social security, Medicare, disability. The point is to save people from dying Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #75
No, this is too important Meowmee Nov 2020 #77
No it isn't. This is not a fight we should wage now...not in these circumstances...and I Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #83
I was alive Meowmee Nov 2020 #84
I don't care about ancient history. We are in a depression and have thousands dying everyday Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #87
You should care Meowmee Nov 2020 #88
Why? Do we need revenge for that to? I will pass. Thanks. We have enough 21st century Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #91
+1000 ehrnst Nov 2020 #108
Absolutlely...it is a bad idea to play politics and go after Trump as a party. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #82
Bravo! Duppers Nov 2020 #59
+1 nt Hotler Nov 2020 #104
So how do you propose to "not allow" someone to run for office? ehrnst Nov 2020 #113
I'm so done with Democrats not being aggressive with Republican crimes and misbehavior. I thought we LizBeth Nov 2020 #29
That's the job of the DOJ, not the POTUS. So, no, "Biden" doesn't "owe" anyone ehrnst Nov 2020 #30
Yes, Biden does owe us voters he asked to dump our candidates to vote for him to unite. He promised LizBeth Nov 2020 #32
So you're saying that the POTUS "owes us" directing the DOJ to prosecute someone, like ehrnst Nov 2020 #34
No Erhnst that is not what I am saying, but what you keep asking me if I am saying. LizBeth Nov 2020 #36
Also - who here called you "stupid?" ehrnst Nov 2020 #37
Why would you not do what is in your own interest? treestar Nov 2020 #38
None of what you are talking about applies to me. I see crisis. Crisis that is addressed by LizBeth Nov 2020 #39
You said people gave up their candidate treestar Nov 2020 #40
I am saying we had a very special primary, and uniting behind Biden, promises were made. LizBeth Nov 2020 #41
"Promises were made" - can you specify what promises that were made you think are being broken? ehrnst Nov 2020 #43
I asked a question... you call that "trying to shut down conversation?" ehrnst Nov 2020 #56
Still waiting for an answer. ehrnst Nov 2020 #65
Who here called you "the bad guy?" ehrnst Nov 2020 #42
FYI... ehrnst Nov 2020 #45
You have to trust Biden...let him do as he thinks best. And Biden never said he would go after Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #74
"It might make us feel great to torture Trump (for sure)" This is what bothers me. It is not even LizBeth Nov 2020 #85
I don't want the House to go near this...we will lose in 2022 if she does. Do you understand we Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #90
I disagree it is one or the other. LizBeth Nov 2020 #96
It will be perceived as such and what is the point? He is likely to be pardoned...states and Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #99
Surely we have ways and means to tighten things up so we have a little more control over the future. LizBeth Nov 2020 #103
We are in big trouble as a party. We have driven off many of our big donors with our purity Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #114
He is making sure that he, as POTUS, is NOT seen calling for investigations for Trump, ehrnst Nov 2020 #119
This is one in a million reasons the President addresses it. This right here. We have a Sec of State LizBeth Nov 2020 #35
Why do you think that conversation "isn't being had" - it's being investigated ehrnst Nov 2020 #46
That's being investigated... ehrnst Nov 2020 #47
Your goal seems to be shutting down conversation in all these posts. I get that tactic. LizBeth Nov 2020 #48
Shutting down conversation? By pointing out facts? ehrnst Nov 2020 #55
We are in the middle of a huge pandemic...that has kill a half a million Americans...seriously Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #69
Nowhere is there the suggestiong Biden ought to walk in and not deal with a number of the fires LizBeth Nov 2020 #89
No they won't unite and we must punish them every day ...the do nothing Senate if we don't Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #101
I read about your husband just getting that job and now they are talking about shutting down for a LizBeth Nov 2020 #102
They are going to be pardoned anyway so it's moot SoonerPride Nov 2020 #33
Not sure if your timelines are accurate. Caliman73 Nov 2020 #49
That'sNOTJusticeJoe lame54 Nov 2020 #44
We get it... you too want a politized Justice Department. LanternWaste Nov 2020 #61
We need both a Marshall Plan and Nuremberg trials nuxvomica Nov 2020 #62
We had a chance with that in 2009 until Pelosi said no ansible Nov 2020 #66
I never thought there was any criminal charges from Iraq...bad judgement and bad policy yes. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #72
Bernie Sanders opposed it JI7 Nov 2020 #80
He was right IMHO. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #92
Some on this thread are very unrealistic I fear. We will at best have a bare minimum in Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #71
I don't think it's unrealistic to try people for crimes nuxvomica Nov 2020 #73
Biden needs to stay out of it...and Trump may never be found guilty of any crimes which is Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #78
Yes, Biden should stay out of it nuxvomica Nov 2020 #81
Exactly what I think. Trump isn't worth losing important Democratic policy dating to Roosevelt's Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #86
That is not the purview of the White House, and if Biden starts talking about that, he's violating ehrnst Nov 2020 #112
Biden Concerned That Federal Investigations into Ex-President Trump Will Further Divide The Country LizBeth Nov 2020 #120
You only know what has been made public. You think Biden is unaware of what effect messaging has ehrnst Nov 2020 #121
Yes Ehrnst, this is what I repeatedly say. We only know what we are told. And what we hear CONCERNS LizBeth Nov 2020 #123
Yes, and you still haven't acknowledged that he can't appear to be interfering in the DOJ process ehrnst Nov 2020 #124
I have not suggested Biden interfere with DOJ. So again, you go on about something LizBeth Nov 2020 #125
Your posts indicate otherwise. ehrnst Nov 2020 #126
I heard on progressive radio...that this is overblown. You do understand that the Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #67
Not doing investigations and convictions in the past turned out real well PufPuf23 Nov 2020 #76
So your solution is to use Justice to go after Trump...rather than be independent...seems to Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #93
Reagan Iran-Contra where arms were traded for hostages and the proceeds were used PufPuf23 Nov 2020 #105
That is ancient history...and I doubt either Regan or GWB could be prosecuted but I don't give a Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #115
Revenge is not the term at all to use; it is not revenge but justice and PufPuf23 Nov 2020 #116
Sorry...I don't care about Reagan or Bush. I live in the now. Trump is no doubt a criminal Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #117
We have the same ends; stop Trump and the Republicans. Social Security, health care, Medicare etc PufPuf23 Nov 2020 #118
That's up to the DOJ, not Biden. ehrnst Nov 2020 #127
I stated in several of the above posts that Biden should pick a strong PufPuf23 Nov 2020 #129
"Duh?" ehrnst Nov 2020 #130
So you are against a strong AG and a fumigated Trump politicized DOJ? PufPuf23 Nov 2020 #131
Please. ehrnst Nov 2020 #132
Biden will pay a BIGGER political price than President Obama paid with overlooking Dubya &... WyattKansas Nov 2020 #94
Lack of accountability won't make the country any more divided than it already is. Crunchy Frog Nov 2020 #100
Who said there would be "witholding accountability?" ehrnst Nov 2020 #122
??? ehrnst Nov 2020 #128
Biden **cannot** ethically or legally promote or influence any DOJ investigation against Trump ehrnst Nov 2020 #109
Please stop. This has been posted at least five times..doesn't improve with age. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #133
You're responding to a week old post Snake Plissken Nov 2020 #135
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