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Bettie

(15,995 posts)
67. And that's the thing our side reactively frames the entire debate
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 09:34 AM
Nov 2020

based on what they say. There is NEVER any time for our message because we're so freaking busy trying to fit it into their framing.

I'm sure they don't grow angel wings. Autumn Nov 2020 #1
Funny. But in the real world repug attack ads say socialism... brush Nov 2020 #2
I'm sorry but what ISN'T socialism to Republicans? ck4829 Nov 2020 #3
Whatever your post means, repugs don't do nuance. brush Nov 2020 #8
Agree anamnua Nov 2020 #27
And yet both are a part of the Socialist Party. ahoysrcsm Nov 2020 #64
+1000 Celerity Nov 2020 #66
This Trump supporter defines socialism JonLP24 Nov 2020 #5
I saw that a couple of days ago. It's so pathetic. brush Nov 2020 #10
So for that person, a Socialist is a person who is NOT a White Supremacist Captain Zero Nov 2020 #28
+1. The 'socialism' thing is fear of 'black people getting free stuff' radius777 Nov 2020 #55
Funny. But in the real world repug attack ads say socialism... LenaBaby61 Nov 2020 #9
I don't look to Clyburn on what to say JonLP24 Nov 2020 #13
"I don't look to Clyburn on what to say." LenaBaby61 Nov 2020 #20
My mother told me she voted for Biden but almost didn't. why? "Defund the Police" Captain Zero Nov 2020 #30
did she actually think Biden would remove all police funding and there would be no police? maxsolomon Nov 2020 #35
They also say socialism Bettie Nov 2020 #11
Even more reason to stop with the jokes about socialism. brush Nov 2020 #15
Or you point out how friggin' ridiculous they are. TDale313 Nov 2020 #22
Exactly melman Nov 2020 #24
Here's what gets me... TDale313 Nov 2020 #26
She needs to tamper down on the socialism jokes et al ... LenaBaby61 Nov 2020 #32
She needs to keep doing exactly what she doing. Autumn Nov 2020 #38
"Anybody whining about "The Democrat Socialist party" like your friend in GA..." LenaBaby61 Nov 2020 #39
We all have every right to say what we want . Including AOC. She has always talked about Autumn Nov 2020 #40
We all have every right to say what we want . Including AOC. LenaBaby61 Nov 2020 #41
She's been elected TWICE talking about socialism. So yes, she can do whatever she pleases. Autumn Nov 2020 #45
She's been elected TWICE talking about socialism. So yes, she can do whatever she pleases. LenaBaby61 Nov 2020 #47
That's right NY is a lot bluer than GA who has voted Dem ONCE since 1996. Autumn Nov 2020 #54
No it is scary because it costs us elections and could cost us the Georgia seats. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #43
Exactly, we can't be afraid of our own shadow. AOC is correct radius777 Nov 2020 #56
And that's the thing our side reactively frames the entire debate Bettie Nov 2020 #67
Some people would have us believe this has never happened before. Mariana Nov 2020 #62
Really, really starting to appreciate her Biophilic Nov 2020 #4
Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #12
Is that "corporate lobbyist-backed" candidate a Democrat who can actually win a competitive seat? brooklynite Nov 2020 #6
Ads portrayed Jaime Harrison as a lobbyist in South Carolina JonLP24 Nov 2020 #14
Ads also called him a far, far left radical octoberlib Nov 2020 #25
"People down here don't give a flying fuck if he was a lobbyist. That kind of messaging.. LenaBaby61 Nov 2020 #46
Scary, but you're right ... LenaBaby61 Nov 2020 #51
Yep. Jaime ran some really smart, good ads octoberlib Nov 2020 #63
Yep. Jaime ran some really smart, good ads LenaBaby61 Nov 2020 #71
+1,000,000 George II Nov 2020 #21
Are there enough of her type to keep the house? I think not...so adorable really. I am so not Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #42
I don't know the point of that tweet qazplm135 Nov 2020 #7
WWND? NurseJackie Nov 2020 #18
But you prove that it doesn't matter the reality. Repubs use it as a boogie man. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2020 #33
Who is blaming AOC? qazplm135 Nov 2020 #36
It is a message to double down on socialism AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #49
It's a message that "socialism" is just a nonsense tag Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2020 #50
Except it works qazplm135 Nov 2020 #60
Yes, let's let the Republicans drive our message and approach Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2020 #68
Yes qazplm135 Nov 2020 #69
It affected Cubans in Miami Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2020 #70
It affected a lot more than them qazplm135 Nov 2020 #72
It absolutely needs to be addressed, but not by punching left. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2020 #75
Every criticism or AOC is not "punching left" qazplm135 Nov 2020 #79
Amen to everything you just said, qazplm135. nt mtnsnake Nov 2020 #81
Of course she's not perfect, but blaming her for people misunderstanding socialism is punching left. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2020 #82
Jesus no one is "blaming her for people misunderstanding socialism" qazplm135 Nov 2020 #85
I don't either. If it's aimed at Republicans, why not say so? betsuni Nov 2020 #52
We lost FL for the same reasons we always do, radius777 Nov 2020 #59
A star? qazplm135 Nov 2020 #61
The Republican/Corporate attack on 'Socialism' can be defeated and bypassed immediately... WyattKansas Nov 2020 #16
That linkage sounds like a good idea. Just snap back with that when the word comes up. JudyM Nov 2020 #17
That is a GREAT strategy...unless you're in the habit of calling yourself a Socialist... brooklynite Nov 2020 #23
If you noticed President-Elect Biden's speech when he finally declared victory, he mentioned FDR... WyattKansas Nov 2020 #31
The problem is that FDR policies Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #44
Well by all means, do explain how many Asians and African Americans will be alienated by... WyattKansas Nov 2020 #74
FDR turned a blind eye to segregation Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #78
Again you will find groups still angry about what the past did not fully do but the movement began. WyattKansas Nov 2020 #83
Not saying any one is still angry Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #84
You mean the policies that caused the expansion of the Commerce Clause Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2020 #77
Read my above post Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #80
Who is the Democratic party calls themselves a Socialist? Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2020 #76
The Legacy of McCarthyism JGladstone Nov 2020 #19
AOC is one smart young lady! Brother Mythos Nov 2020 #29
Love it! If only it were true. Maybe we need to clap really hard when saying it. Nanjeanne Nov 2020 #34
Then if you say socialism three more times, a Congress person gets a PufPuf23 Nov 2020 #37
a shrug AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #48
Must be great to be so scared of how people trapped in the 80$ view us . . . HughBeaumont Nov 2020 #53
Is This about Nina Turner ? JI7 Nov 2020 #57
Good one. betsuni Nov 2020 #58
Hey @AOC I'm a big fan of yours. True story. What's the difference between Democratic Socialism and Celerity Nov 2020 #65
Problem Solving 101. nt oasis Nov 2020 #73
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