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LizBeth

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41. I am saying we had a very special primary, and uniting behind Biden, promises were made.

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 04:21 PM

Nov 2020

If you have read any of my posts in this subthread, then I would think the conversation would be different. I feel like what I am being ignored so you can argue something totally different. That confuses me. So... I will move on. We are talking past each other or something.

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This will be very disappointing, if the Trumps are allowed to get away with their crimes [View all] Snake Plissken Nov 2020 OP

Let the States deal with him Abnredleg Nov 2020 #1

He does, but his Attorney General and US Attorneys can focus on this n/t DonaldsRump Nov 2020 #3

Exactly! Duppers Nov 2020 #50

He said that independent attys can focus on it. ehrnst Nov 2020 #107

Interesting thread on this DonaldsRump Nov 2020 #2

thank you riversedge Nov 2020 #22

I disagree superpatriotman Nov 2020 #4

The ghost of Watergate looms. empedocles Nov 2020 #6

Exactly. They are still committing crimes today. bullimiami Nov 2020 #8

Wholly agreed empedocles Nov 2020 #5

If Trump refuses to leave, he can kiss his 2024 hopes goodbye apnu Nov 2020 #7

His cult loves to call him "a fighter" Ohiogal Nov 2020 #9

or will they bdamomma Nov 2020 #95

Let the states have him...he will pardon himself or get Pence to do it for him. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #10

Trump will not refuse to leave on Jan. 20 Chainfire Nov 2020 #11

"he would leave decisions up to an independent Justice Department." JI7 Nov 2020 #12

I agree 100% Sunsky Nov 2020 #13

This Meowmee Nov 2020 #16

It can't be any further divided Blue Owl Nov 2020 #14

Biden also said that he wouldn't get involved but would let his DOJ handle this StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #15

I agree bdamomma Nov 2020 #97

What would Republicans do? gab13by13 Nov 2020 #17

I saw this coming a mile off. No investigations will pave the way for more trumps. tman Nov 2020 #18

EXACTLY!!! Trueblue Texan Nov 2020 #21

And it's not the first time bdamomma Nov 2020 #98

Did you actually read the article? Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #25

And...this... Duppers Nov 2020 #52

Losing in 22 and 24 will likely get Trump reelected. We have to make good on our promises as to Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #70

Who said there would be no investigations? Those will be up to the DOJ. Do you think that they don't ehrnst Nov 2020 #110

Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #19

How about giving Biden a chance Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #26

Biden had better worry that letting Trump et.al. walk... Trueblue Texan Nov 2020 #20

Exactly. triron Nov 2020 #23

Exactly! Duppers Nov 2020 #53

Going after Trump in a big way and losing the next two elections is more likely to do this...and we Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #79

The DOJ can investigate and prosecute without a word from Biden, and by law has to. ehrnst Nov 2020 #111

It is not nor should it be Biden's decision. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #134

Or maybe that's just public posturing to coax the manchild into conceding. marmar Nov 2020 #24

Fucking Republicans won't even admit, let alone congratulate, Joe on victory. Kid Berwyn Nov 2020 #27

😅 Duppers Nov 2020 #58

At some point you have to say enough is ENOUGH Meowmee Nov 2020 #28

That is the job of the DOJ, and the states where he committed crimes. ehrnst Nov 2020 #31

Did I say anything about the whiltehouse? Meowmee Nov 2020 #51

The OP you were responding to was about the President elect, yes? ehrnst Nov 2020 #54

I am against Meowmee Nov 2020 #57

So that's a yes, you are talking about the WH? ehrnst Nov 2020 #60

talking about what is said by Biden, as I already explained. Meowmee Nov 2020 #63

So, that's a yes, you were talking about the WH. ehrnst Nov 2020 #64

No I am talking about the prez elect Meowmee Nov 2020 #68

The President elect is indeed the WH in terms of discussing the OP. ehrnst Nov 2020 #106

The point is to save social security, Medicare, disability. The point is to save people from dying Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #75

No, this is too important Meowmee Nov 2020 #77

No it isn't. This is not a fight we should wage now...not in these circumstances...and I Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #83

I was alive Meowmee Nov 2020 #84

I don't care about ancient history. We are in a depression and have thousands dying everyday Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #87

You should care Meowmee Nov 2020 #88

Why? Do we need revenge for that to? I will pass. Thanks. We have enough 21st century Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #91

+1000 ehrnst Nov 2020 #108

Absolutlely...it is a bad idea to play politics and go after Trump as a party. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #82

Bravo! Duppers Nov 2020 #59

+1 nt Hotler Nov 2020 #104

So how do you propose to "not allow" someone to run for office? ehrnst Nov 2020 #113

I'm so done with Democrats not being aggressive with Republican crimes and misbehavior. I thought we LizBeth Nov 2020 #29

That's the job of the DOJ, not the POTUS. So, no, "Biden" doesn't "owe" anyone ehrnst Nov 2020 #30

Yes, Biden does owe us voters he asked to dump our candidates to vote for him to unite. He promised LizBeth Nov 2020 #32

So you're saying that the POTUS "owes us" directing the DOJ to prosecute someone, like ehrnst Nov 2020 #34

No Erhnst that is not what I am saying, but what you keep asking me if I am saying. LizBeth Nov 2020 #36

Also - who here called you "stupid?" ehrnst Nov 2020 #37

Why would you not do what is in your own interest? treestar Nov 2020 #38

None of what you are talking about applies to me. I see crisis. Crisis that is addressed by LizBeth Nov 2020 #39

You said people gave up their candidate treestar Nov 2020 #40

I am saying we had a very special primary, and uniting behind Biden, promises were made. LizBeth Nov 2020 #41

"Promises were made" - can you specify what promises that were made you think are being broken? ehrnst Nov 2020 #43

I asked a question... you call that "trying to shut down conversation?" ehrnst Nov 2020 #56

Still waiting for an answer. ehrnst Nov 2020 #65

Who here called you "the bad guy?" ehrnst Nov 2020 #42

FYI... ehrnst Nov 2020 #45

You have to trust Biden...let him do as he thinks best. And Biden never said he would go after Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #74

"It might make us feel great to torture Trump (for sure)" This is what bothers me. It is not even LizBeth Nov 2020 #85

I don't want the House to go near this...we will lose in 2022 if she does. Do you understand we Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #90

I disagree it is one or the other. LizBeth Nov 2020 #96

It will be perceived as such and what is the point? He is likely to be pardoned...states and Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #99

Surely we have ways and means to tighten things up so we have a little more control over the future. LizBeth Nov 2020 #103

We are in big trouble as a party. We have driven off many of our big donors with our purity Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #114

He is making sure that he, as POTUS, is NOT seen calling for investigations for Trump, ehrnst Nov 2020 #119

This is one in a million reasons the President addresses it. This right here. We have a Sec of State LizBeth Nov 2020 #35

Why do you think that conversation "isn't being had" - it's being investigated ehrnst Nov 2020 #46

That's being investigated... ehrnst Nov 2020 #47

Your goal seems to be shutting down conversation in all these posts. I get that tactic. LizBeth Nov 2020 #48

Shutting down conversation? By pointing out facts? ehrnst Nov 2020 #55

We are in the middle of a huge pandemic...that has kill a half a million Americans...seriously Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #69

Nowhere is there the suggestiong Biden ought to walk in and not deal with a number of the fires LizBeth Nov 2020 #89

No they won't unite and we must punish them every day ...the do nothing Senate if we don't Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #101

I read about your husband just getting that job and now they are talking about shutting down for a LizBeth Nov 2020 #102

They are going to be pardoned anyway so it's moot SoonerPride Nov 2020 #33

Not sure if your timelines are accurate. Caliman73 Nov 2020 #49

That'sNOTJusticeJoe lame54 Nov 2020 #44

We get it... you too want a politized Justice Department. LanternWaste Nov 2020 #61

We need both a Marshall Plan and Nuremberg trials nuxvomica Nov 2020 #62

We had a chance with that in 2009 until Pelosi said no ansible Nov 2020 #66

I never thought there was any criminal charges from Iraq...bad judgement and bad policy yes. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #72

Bernie Sanders opposed it JI7 Nov 2020 #80

He was right IMHO. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #92

Some on this thread are very unrealistic I fear. We will at best have a bare minimum in Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #71

I don't think it's unrealistic to try people for crimes nuxvomica Nov 2020 #73

Biden needs to stay out of it...and Trump may never be found guilty of any crimes which is Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #78

Yes, Biden should stay out of it nuxvomica Nov 2020 #81

Exactly what I think. Trump isn't worth losing important Democratic policy dating to Roosevelt's Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #86

That is not the purview of the White House, and if Biden starts talking about that, he's violating ehrnst Nov 2020 #112

Biden Concerned That Federal Investigations into Ex-President Trump Will Further Divide The Country LizBeth Nov 2020 #120

You only know what has been made public. You think Biden is unaware of what effect messaging has ehrnst Nov 2020 #121

Yes Ehrnst, this is what I repeatedly say. We only know what we are told. And what we hear CONCERNS LizBeth Nov 2020 #123

Yes, and you still haven't acknowledged that he can't appear to be interfering in the DOJ process ehrnst Nov 2020 #124

I have not suggested Biden interfere with DOJ. So again, you go on about something LizBeth Nov 2020 #125

Your posts indicate otherwise. ehrnst Nov 2020 #126

I heard on progressive radio...that this is overblown. You do understand that the Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #67

Not doing investigations and convictions in the past turned out real well PufPuf23 Nov 2020 #76

So your solution is to use Justice to go after Trump...rather than be independent...seems to Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #93

Reagan Iran-Contra where arms were traded for hostages and the proceeds were used PufPuf23 Nov 2020 #105

That is ancient history...and I doubt either Regan or GWB could be prosecuted but I don't give a Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #115

Revenge is not the term at all to use; it is not revenge but justice and PufPuf23 Nov 2020 #116

Sorry...I don't care about Reagan or Bush. I live in the now. Trump is no doubt a criminal Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #117

We have the same ends; stop Trump and the Republicans. Social Security, health care, Medicare etc PufPuf23 Nov 2020 #118

That's up to the DOJ, not Biden. ehrnst Nov 2020 #127

I stated in several of the above posts that Biden should pick a strong PufPuf23 Nov 2020 #129

"Duh?" ehrnst Nov 2020 #130

So you are against a strong AG and a fumigated Trump politicized DOJ? PufPuf23 Nov 2020 #131

Please. ehrnst Nov 2020 #132

Biden will pay a BIGGER political price than President Obama paid with overlooking Dubya &... WyattKansas Nov 2020 #94

Lack of accountability won't make the country any more divided than it already is. Crunchy Frog Nov 2020 #100

Who said there would be "witholding accountability?" ehrnst Nov 2020 #122

??? ehrnst Nov 2020 #128

Biden **cannot** ethically or legally promote or influence any DOJ investigation against Trump ehrnst Nov 2020 #109

Please stop. This has been posted at least five times..doesn't improve with age. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #133

You're responding to a week old post Snake Plissken Nov 2020 #135