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W_HAMILTON

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33. It's up to HER to prove HER claims.

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 03:02 PM

Nov 2020

Come to these ******* areas and hold some rallies in these rural areas and let's see how well she is received. Show us all these secret """socialist""" voters out there in the boondocks. Sanders relied on that same false narrative in the last two primaries -- how well did that turn out for him?

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AOC: Why do we listen to people who lost elections as if they are experts in winning elections? [View all] melman Nov 2020 OP

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AOC is awesome and is an amazing Democrat. PTWB Nov 2020 #4

Then she should get her ass off Twitter and prove it. W_HAMILTON Nov 2020 #13

She's a rep in NYC Javaman Nov 2020 #61

I like her too...but this election has shown clearly that we can't win the Senate in red states Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #27

Has it? PTWB Nov 2020 #29

Exactly! nt gabeana Nov 2020 #36

I like AOC, but she would not have won in Kentucky. Malmsy Nov 2020 #117

I live in a purple state and we ran a moderate candidate Jspur Nov 2020 #42

But yet a red state like Florida passed a progressive measure like $15/hr min wage. Doremus Nov 2020 #99

Polls have consistently favored progressive polices such as universal healthcare, free college, Jspur Nov 2020 #100

John Dingell SENIOR introduced universal health care insurance (not just "universal health care")... George II Nov 2020 #220

It was a different era where people loved and Jspur Nov 2020 #295

It was proven back in 2018 that we can't win in red states or "middle America" without .... George II Nov 2020 #62

We ran a moderate in KY Bettie Nov 2020 #87

And you think that running someone less moderate would have done better ehrnst Nov 2020 #110

Amy McGrath is not a moderate Wanderlust988 Nov 2020 #133

Do you actually think BainsBane Nov 2020 #183

That proved to be true here in AZ in 2018 with Krysten Sinema DesertRat Nov 2020 #89

many of the fails Senate-wise where the more moderate ones from the primaries Celerity Nov 2020 #198

I think that she's more Justice Democrat. n/t Malmsy Nov 2020 #116

AOC is a Democratic candidate and office holder Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #11

Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #16

Sound like Republicans are attacking Democrats Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #17

AOC is claiming she knows better how to win voters over in these states. W_HAMILTON Nov 2020 #19

Link? Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #23

Link to what? W_HAMILTON Nov 2020 #26

To prove your accusations Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #28

It's up to HER to prove HER claims. W_HAMILTON Nov 2020 #33

Thanks for admitting Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #37

I can prove it: W_HAMILTON Nov 2020 #43

Not proof but opinion Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #51

Woe just wow. Javaman Nov 2020 #66

Seriously. H2O Man Nov 2020 #249

Here's one, where she got into it with Tammy Duckworth. As it turned out.... George II Nov 2020 #83

Link just shows the headline. Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #84

Here are the first four paragraphs: George II Nov 2020 #88

Thanks but Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #90

That was a response to comments made on Twitter about Midwestern Democratic candidates being too.... George II Nov 2020 #92

What comments? Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #93

Like I said, I don't know how to find 2+ year old tweets. George II Nov 2020 #95

Here's a link to twitter's advanced search melman Nov 2020 #96

Not interested in going back more than two years to "answer" something that's obvious. But thanks. George II Nov 2020 #242

Okay melman Nov 2020 #246

No, I know they exist. Just not interested in doing someone else's work for him/her. You're welcome. George II Nov 2020 #252

No melman Nov 2020 #255

Is there anything in the article? Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #97

Exactly - moderate and centrist Democrats are the future of the party AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #156

The republicans are now painting every Democrat as a Jspur Nov 2020 #46

I think that was what lost us Florida. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2020 #147

Unfortunatelyi her endorsement in Iowa for Greenfield didn't help Greenfield still_one Nov 2020 #104

A week or so ago she was urging New York voters to vote on the Working Families Line, NOT.... George II Nov 2020 #18

So were Schumer and Gilibrand Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #22

Here is what McCaskill said about the Democratic Party in the clip in the OP: Mariana Nov 2020 #47

So? Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #52

It's funny to read folks squawking that AOC is criticizing the Democratic Party Mariana Nov 2020 #59

Yes melman Nov 2020 #73

Actually she wasn't criticizing the Democratic Party, not at all. George II Nov 2020 #74

Exactly Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #77

But you said AOC should be criticized for criticizing the Democratic party. ehrnst Nov 2020 #200

Yes she should Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #216

And you're right about AOC. My apologies. ehrnst Nov 2020 #344

That's your opinion Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #349

Irrelevant. No one said they weren't... what did that strawman ever do to you? ehrnst Nov 2020 #471

Just as I thought Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #477

Irrelevant. ehrnst Nov 2020 #478

Weak Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #480

Lulz... just sayin' what you would. ehrnst Nov 2020 #482

More projection. ehrnst Nov 2020 #484

A turd with a D next to it wins in her district. SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #53

So you're defending a TV Pundit Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #55

I am defending a former dem politician SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #56

Former, being the operative work, Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #57

Ok... SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #58

So it was wrong for her to defend the party Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #78

Good Lord. SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #80

Thanks! Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #85

One could describe AOC as a "pundit," as much as she's on the media. ehrnst Nov 2020 #123

She's an elected Democratic Party representative Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #125

So that makes everything she says more valuable than any former Party representative, ehrnst Nov 2020 #129

. melman Nov 2020 #131

. ehrnst Nov 2020 #135

No it means she shouldn't get slammed Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #137

You were the one slamming people for being paid to appear, if they were former politicians. ehrnst Nov 2020 #140

I never slammed anyone for being a pundit Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #146

This was you, yes? ehrnst Nov 2020 #148

Thanks for proving my point Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #152

I didn't put these words there. ehrnst Nov 2020 #155

McCaskill wasn't just any former Party representative, she was a former Senator... George II Nov 2020 #142

Yes. She has had more successes in her career than a freshman house member, and more exprerience. ehrnst Nov 2020 #144

Big deal Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #161

And being a sitting democratic freshmen congressperson does not automatically bestow more worth ehrnst Nov 2020 #179

Never said it did Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #185

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Nov 2020 #221

So I guess that's a no Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #231

Her success as a Senator is called "experience." This is why she a "political analyst" ehrnst Nov 2020 #287

Seems to me melman Nov 2020 #290

Well said Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #300

Projection? ehrnst Nov 2020 #345

I don't think so melman Nov 2020 #365

"rage filled" ehrnst Nov 2020 #370

And it's a shame that some can't handle criticism Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #299

Some just can't handle criticism of a freshman congressperson who is clearly irritated ehrnst Nov 2020 #354

Nope Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #359

Yep! ehrnst Nov 2020 #421

Nope Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #427

Yep! ehrnst Nov 2020 #433

Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman are former Democratic Senators Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #149

Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama are former Democratic POTUS, who are paid for appearances. ehrnst Nov 2020 #154

Did AOC criticize Obama or Carter? Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #160

Nice attempt at a derail...this is about you refusing to acknowledge the logical extension of your ehrnst Nov 2020 #171

No it calling out a false equivalency Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #174

Because you say so? I've pointed out the very uncomfortable fact that your dismissive ehrnst Nov 2020 #182

No it is because it is Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #186

You're still trying to double down on a gaffe and it's embarrassing. ehrnst Nov 2020 #193

Those politicians changed their party and outright betrayed the dems. DLCWIdem Nov 2020 #163

So is bringing up Carter and Obama. Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #165

It's an attempt at evading being called out on a gaffe. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2020 #184

Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman spoke at the republican National Convention. Has McCaskill? George II Nov 2020 #169

True and were rightly criticized for it Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #172

You're comparing a comment made by McCaskill on a political talk show to two "Democrats".... George II Nov 2020 #194

I know. The false equivalence is breathtaking. ehrnst Nov 2020 #197

And some are comparing a former Senator Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #218

Actually, the comparison began with your assertion R B Garr Nov 2020 #224

Well if they appeared on TV, anyway. ehrnst Nov 2020 #228

Ah, AOCs comment was about not listening to R B Garr Nov 2020 #234

I never picked Carter Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #238

Actually, I used Hillary as an example of a Democrat R B Garr Nov 2020 #251

That still doesn't mean Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #256

The same goes for AOC. She can be criticized for her R B Garr Nov 2020 #259

Sure she can Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #264

You've been rather testy and have gone on the offensive when someone actually has.. ehrnst Nov 2020 #288

Projection Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #298

Projection of projection. ehrnst Nov 2020 #348

Projection of projection of projection Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #350

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Projection of projection of projection of projection Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #360

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Nov 2020 #470

Already did Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #476

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Nov 2020 #479

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Nov 2020 #481

I was responding to someone else who stated that McCaskill was less worthy than AOC ehrnst Nov 2020 #240

Yes, I see that now, thank you. My phone doesn't R B Garr Nov 2020 #245

So what? Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #235

And the goalposts keep on moving... ehrnst Nov 2020 #266

Yes because you keep moving them. Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #268

Don't pretend someone said she should be immune from criticism. ehrnst Nov 2020 #291

Never misrepresented anything Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #296

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Nov 2020 #327

Yes Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #329

And yet you still post. ehrnst Nov 2020 #334

And so do you Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #335

You keep on trying to get me to say something... ehrnst Nov 2020 #337

More projection. Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #339

One is called by the last office they held. You don't hear people address Obama or Carter as ehrnst Nov 2020 #342

Nope Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #346

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Nov 2020 #352

Great Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #361

You and your strawman agree, that's for sure. ehrnst Nov 2020 #435

Here's your chance! ehrnst Nov 2020 #356

Oh, phone typing! Sorry ehrnst, wrong reply. R B Garr Nov 2020 #237

Never said smearing Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #233

You smeared, you didn't say "smearing." ehrnst Nov 2020 #241

I never said it was ok to smear anyone. Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #248

Don't pretend that I ever said that you did. I, along with others, pointed out your obvious dislike ehrnst Nov 2020 #343

No dislike Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #347

I'm pointing out what others have observed as well. ehrnst Nov 2020 #355

Nothing wrong with that Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #357

Who disputed that or said those things were wrong? ehrnst Nov 2020 #358

Good Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #364

Good. ehrnst Nov 2020 #425

Claire was smeared for losing an election. R B Garr Nov 2020 #254

That's your opinion Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #257

However, you smeared McCaskill. Don't pretend you didn't. ehrnst Nov 2020 #261

How did I smear McCaskill? Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #262

Don't pretend you didn't. Others have commented on your swipes. ehrnst Nov 2020 #274

Those are not smears Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #276

Several people here have commented on your disrespect and insults. Here they are again... ehrnst Nov 2020 #289

Not disrespect or insults, but facts. Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #297

I'm one of several who saw the clear irritation with others who pointed out that ehrnst Nov 2020 #363

I stated facts Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #367

I am stating facts as well. ehrnst Nov 2020 #368

Nope Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #371

I guess we didn't misunderstand you then. ehrnst Nov 2020 #377

I just stated facts Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #378

As many have pointed out, it is your attitude, not the facts. ehrnst Nov 2020 #379

My attitude is to discuss facts Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #382

The facts are that people here were pointing out your attitude ehrnst Nov 2020 #384

That's their issue Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #385

Says the one who grouses about others' "attitudes" that you can't back up ehrnst Nov 2020 #391

Projection again. Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #395

Fact... ehrnst Nov 2020 #398

So? Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #399

This is a fact. Sorry that you seem bothered by facts. Not my problem though. ehrnst Nov 2020 #402

Nope Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #405

Yep. It's relevant to what other people are talking about in this thread, which is what you are ehrnst Nov 2020 #420

Nope Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #426

Yep. Just because you refuse to read the posts doesn't mean they're not there. ehrnst Nov 2020 #432

AOC's Twitter comment was an unnecessary R B Garr Nov 2020 #263

An ex-senator who is now a pundit. Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #267

AOC's comments were about Claire's loss. Do we get to attack and R B Garr Nov 2020 #269

That's your opinion. Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #270

Yes, AOC should not be immune from criticism. R B Garr Nov 2020 #273

Agreed Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #278

It's your opinion that Senator McCaskill is less worthy of respect than AOC because ehrnst Nov 2020 #277

Never said McCaskill is less worthy of respect Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #279

Again... ehrnst Nov 2020 #280

Which is true Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #304

And you're claiming you're not insulting McCaskill with the word choice, despite others here ehrnst Nov 2020 #306

How is it an insult Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #310

Don't pretend your posts weren't diminishing and insulting the Senator. ehrnst Nov 2020 #314

Not pretending anything Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #316

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Just stated facts Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #321

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Nov 2020 #325

Nope it's the facts Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #328

Yes,your choice of words in your posts made it obvious to several people your dislike of the Senator ehrnst Nov 2020 #331

Stating the facts is just stating the facts Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #333

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Stating the facts is not demeaning. Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #338

As several have said, your choice of words in referring to Senator McCaskill ehrnst Nov 2020 #390

I stated facts Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #396

Facts... ehrnst Nov 2020 #397

Again so what? Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #401

It's a fact. Why are you bothered by facts? ehrnst Nov 2020 #407

Agreed Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #409

Because you don't want to acknowledge that it's been discussed several places on this thread ehrnst Nov 2020 #412

It's irrelevant Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #414

It's relevant to this discussion, because it's mentioned several times. ehrnst Nov 2020 #415

No it's irrelevant to my argument. Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #417

That happens when you invent things to argue with that no one has said. ehrnst Nov 2020 #418

Projection Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #419

Because you say so? ehrnst Nov 2020 #423

More projection. Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #430

Because you say so? Lulz. ehrnst Nov 2020 #436

And even more Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #444

And even more more. ehrnst Nov 2020 #451

And still more projection Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #453

Because you say so? ehrnst Nov 2020 #459

More projection Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #461

Because it makes you uncomfortable? Lulz. ehrnst Nov 2020 #466

A lot of people didn't find her comments all that respectful melman Nov 2020 #282

That's not what AOC or the poster I was responding to was talking about. ehrnst Nov 2020 #283

+1000. ehrnst Nov 2020 #404

Are you saying that Obama and Carter are NOT former elected Democratic reps who ehrnst Nov 2020 #226

You have proof that they get paid? Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #236

You seem shocked and dismayed... Carter has a booking agent. ehrnst Nov 2020 #243

So what? Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #247

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Nov 2020 #250

But you didn't prove anything Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #253

You're really embarassed now, aren't you? ehrnst Nov 2020 #260

No you didn't prove they get paid for appearing on cable news Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #265

I never said that. Don't pretend I did. ehrnst Nov 2020 #271

Then I must have misunderstood your point Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #275

I think you understood it fine. As I've said, I think it made you uncomfortable, and ehrnst Nov 2020 #281

Never disrespected anyone Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #303

Yes you did. Don't pretend you didn't. ehrnst Nov 2020 #307

How is stating a fact Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #311

Don't pretend you weren't insulting her. Others here also pointed that out. ehrnst Nov 2020 #312

How is pointing out that she works for NBC an insult? Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #313

Keep on moving the goalposts... you insulted the Senator with your language choices ehrnst Nov 2020 #315

No leave that to you Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #317

Nice pivot! But doesn't change your very clear ill will towards the Senator and those of us ehrnst Nov 2020 #323

Stating the truth is not ill will Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #326

Your feelings were very obvious, as others have pointed out. ehrnst Nov 2020 #330

I was just stating facts Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #332

You're very unhappy with people pointing out Senator McCaskills far greater experience and insight ehrnst Nov 2020 #340

No Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #341

No one said she was no allowed to be criticized. ehrnst Nov 2020 #372

True Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #373

And some had an even bigger problem with people pointing out that the experienced multi-term Senator ehrnst Nov 2020 #374

You mean Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #380

Sorry the fact that she won more elections than AOC is threatening to you. ehrnst Nov 2020 #383

So did Joe Scarborough Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #386

Yet another strawman. No response to the facts? ehrnst Nov 2020 #388

No Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #392

lulz... No one here said anyone was immune - only you said that. ehrnst Nov 2020 #400

Good Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #403

It's your strawman, Attack as you like. ehrnst Nov 2020 #406

Nope Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #408

Yep. Right there in the link. You just need to click it to see. ehrnst Nov 2020 #413

Still irrelevant Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #416

The posts from various people on this thread prove otherwise. ehrnst Nov 2020 #422

No it's irrelevant Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #429

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Nov 2020 #434

Irrelevant to my argument Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #441

Well, if you're arguing with yourself and a strawman, sure... ehrnst Nov 2020 #445

Still more projection Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #449

Because you say so? Lulz. ehrnst Nov 2020 #455

The lady douth protest too much Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #458

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Nov 2020 #462

Not to my argument Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #448

Well, that happens when you argue with yourself. Nothing anyone else says is relevant. ehrnst Nov 2020 #464

Irrelevant like random video's of Yang? Or irrelevant in a different way? LanternWaste Nov 2020 #439

Not random at all Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #443

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Nov 2020 #468

Yes it was Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #475

Why are you the only one who gets to say what's relevant and what's not on this page? ehrnst Nov 2020 #485

Awww Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #486

More projection, And irrelevant. ehrnst Nov 2020 #487

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Aww. It'll be OK. ehrnst Nov 2020 #489

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Who is that supposed to be? George II Nov 2020 #500

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Nov 2020 #494

Wait, so the AOC rules are that former elected Dems R B Garr Nov 2020 #102

Why not if they are criticizing the Democratic party Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #108

No she wasn't. To use your go-to.........link? George II Nov 2020 #170

Yes she was Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #173

That wasn't criticizing the Democratic Party. Of course, Waleed Shahid would jump on that. George II Nov 2020 #175

So who was she criticizing? Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #177

No one. She was commenting on the events of the day. Why does everything have to be... George II Nov 2020 #180

She was criticizing the party Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #188

That's your opinion. George II Nov 2020 #189

Maybe/maybe not Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #191

Not even trying to hide evading the question while still posting... ehrnst Nov 2020 #285

More projection Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #301

Nope. You're the one projecting. Clearly. ehrnst Nov 2020 #375

That's exactly what someone projecting would say Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #381

Because you say so? Or did the strawman say that? ehrnst Nov 2020 #438

And even more Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #447

Irrelevant. I win! ehrnst Nov 2020 #472

Yes it's all about winning Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #474

Lulz... ehrnst Nov 2020 #483

I know, right? And she refers to "Us" when she talks about the Democratic party, not as an outsider ehrnst Nov 2020 #286

Her repeated use of the word 'we' means she sees herself anamnua Nov 2020 #181

Which she is free to do Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #187

Who "announced that she can't be criticized?" ehrnst Nov 2020 #206

Great Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #208

Still can't answer the question? ehrnst Nov 2020 #219

What question? Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #230

Who "announced that she can't be criticized?" ehrnst Nov 2020 #284

Sounds like you have Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #302

Never 'announced' McCaskill is 'immune to criticism." ehrnst Nov 2020 #308

Great Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #309

Which is it - people saying some are immune, or is that your mistaken impression? ehrnst Nov 2020 #410

Maybe it's a mistaken impression. Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #411

"Maybe?" "if?" ehrnst Nov 2020 #428

Yes Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #431

So that's a "no, I don't apologize." Got it. ehrnst Nov 2020 #437

Nope Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #446

Yes it is. ehrnst Nov 2020 #465

You will not hear AOC include herself in criticisms of the Democratic party. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2020 #207

So? Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #212

And? ehrnst Nov 2020 #215

Criticizing the Democratic party is something that you find distasteful? ehrnst Nov 2020 #190

And she should be criticized for it. Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #192

So, what exactly was it Claire McCaskill said that was critical of the Democratic Party ehrnst Nov 2020 #195

Interesting, since AOC's criticism of the party gets R B Garr Nov 2020 #202

I guess that would also include Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama? (nt) ehrnst Nov 2020 #114

Exactly! R B Garr Nov 2020 #204

We aren't the only ones who picked up on that. ehrnst Nov 2020 #205

+++, Glad to hear it. There was no legitimate reason R B Garr Nov 2020 #211

I think someone was being hyperdefensive of a particular favorite that they perceived was being ehrnst Nov 2020 #213

A shame it had to go on Twitter, as that's risky R B Garr Nov 2020 #223

I guess if you can't get invited onto a news show to air your grievances, Twitter's always there. ehrnst Nov 2020 #452

see post #197 melman Nov 2020 #214

Irrelevant. ehrnst Nov 2020 #469

She spent TWELVE years in the Senate, elected as a DEMOCRAT in the red state of Missouri.... George II Nov 2020 #105

That's nice Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #107

A mere "former democratic politician"... You mean like Jimmy Carter? Or Barack Obama? ehrnst Nov 2020 #111

Or Joe Lieberman Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #113

Actually, Leiberman is no longer a Democrat. n/t Malmsy Nov 2020 #115

Yes he's a former democrat Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #120

I don't think that he fits into your category of Democrats who are former politicians. n/t Malmsy Nov 2020 #121

Not the point. Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #122

We disagree. I think I made you uncomfortable because it was the point. n/t Malmsy Nov 2020 #126

No it wasn't Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #127

Yes, it was. n/t Malmsy Nov 2020 #136

I know the point I was making Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #138

So do I, n/t Malmsy Nov 2020 #141

No you don't Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #153

Yes I do, and that's why you're unable to let it go. Malmsy Nov 2020 #158

No you don't. Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #162

You just made my point. Malmsy Nov 2020 #201

Glad I could be of service Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #209

So Obama and Carter don't get paid for their appearances or books? ehrnst Nov 2020 #124

They are not paid tv pundits Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #128

So if they get paid for a speech or appearance because they are a former Dem rep ehrnst Nov 2020 #130

Yes it does Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #134

Perhaps you're pretending she doesn't get booked for appearances, like a pundit does. ehrnst Nov 2020 #139

Cut the bs Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #143

I'm not the one painting myself into a corner.. ehrnst Nov 2020 #145

Never said I don't like McCaskill Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #157

You can ignore this as much as you want, but you wrote it. Your own words... ehrnst Nov 2020 #159

And there is no criticism in what I wrote Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #164

Again with the sidestep... ehrnst Nov 2020 #199

So? Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #272

Keep on trying with the smokescreen and sidestep. ehrnst Nov 2020 #318

Never stated any ill will Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #319

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Nov 2020 #322

What did I state that was untrue. Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #324

Your distaste for any defense of a Senator that AOC was irritated to hear talk on TV has been ehrnst Nov 2020 #351

Just stating facts Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #362

I'm not uncomfortable, but you appear to be on being told how your posts were perceived ehrnst Nov 2020 #366

I don't care how they are perceived Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #369

If you "don't care" how you statements are perceived then what's the point of discussion? ehrnst Nov 2020 #440

You tell me Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #442

That's one non-answer. But if you 'don't care' about how your statements are perceived... ehrnst Nov 2020 #450

More projection Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #454

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Nov 2020 #457

Yet again projection Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #460

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Nov 2020 #467

Claire McCaskill is a "TV Pundit" in your eyes? You may want to do a little research into her resume George II Nov 2020 #101

I don't care about her resume Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #106

The McCaskill Rule: Get paid for a televised appearance, your experience and career disappear and betsuni Nov 2020 #258

Amen... comradebillyboy Nov 2020 #32

Hear, hear!! Sogo Nov 2020 #45

Wait until she loses an election. LisaM Nov 2020 #2

"I've enjoyed Claire McCaskill as a pundit" melman Nov 2020 #8

Do you think AOC could win in Missouri? Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #39

Bazinga. Actually she's campaigned for two candidates in Missouri twice, both lost. George II Nov 2020 #48

Why is that relevant? McCaskill was asked about the whole country muriel_volestrangler Nov 2020 #81

No, it doesn't make "one of us". Lots of people here enjoy her commentary. LisaM Nov 2020 #65

Well said PatSeg Nov 2020 #12

You've enjoyed Claire McCaskill as a pundit. Mariana Nov 2020 #35

This is the thing about AOC. I like her, I really do. crickets Nov 2020 #38

That makes two of us, in fact it makes many many of us. If people didn't enjoy her as a pundit.... George II Nov 2020 #44

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I do think we need to look at these things differently gollygee Nov 2020 #5

Good Point about Sanders who lost a blue Primary twice JI7 Nov 2020 #6

Exactly who I was thinking of.. Cha Nov 2020 #14

Exactly! R B Garr Nov 2020 #34

+1 nt PunkinPi Nov 2020 #456

TN Senate race Marquita Bradshaw Jamesyu Nov 2020 #7

IKR? AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #151

I don't usually agree with AOC, but I do here. I am sick of McCaskill. nt LexVegas Nov 2020 #9

Then don't watch her? StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #49

I like AOC, but don't come at Claire McCaskill Rice4VP Nov 2020 #10

Indeed. McCaskill is not a self-serving representative who was in it for her own branding purposes. ehrnst Nov 2020 #210

she lost her seat because she went over the line & ignored the A-A base & attacked the more Celerity Nov 2020 #293

Arrogance.... quickesst Nov 2020 #15

Sorry, but it's pretty easy to say something like this when you're from New York. BlueStater Nov 2020 #20

Exactly PatSeg Nov 2020 #24

AOC is correct jcgoldie Nov 2020 #21

That pissed me right off. maxsolomon Nov 2020 #118

Very poor argument. Progressives lose all the time Blasphemer Nov 2020 #25

Claire McCaskill apologizes for 'hurtful term' used during live MSNBC interview melman Nov 2020 #30

Then that eliminates Bernie since he lost twice. R B Garr Nov 2020 #31

Why do we listen to people who win elections in absolutely safe D seats... brooklynite Nov 2020 #40

What we really don't need are for progressives to begin the attacks upon life-long Dem who Boogiemack Nov 2020 #41

Why is AOC on Twitter complaining about tv pundits? StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #50

Precisely. Cha Nov 2020 #60

Indeed. Perhaps her district. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2020 #72

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There are many things one can criticize Clair McCaskell for dsc Nov 2020 #54

I cannot argue with that logic. ffr Nov 2020 #63

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Does that include people who lost a primary race or two? ehrnst Nov 2020 #67

That happened in 2018, too. George II Nov 2020 #71

It should BainsBane Nov 2020 #178

Does she not know that Claire McCaskill was once an elected official? GoCubsGo Nov 2020 #68

Claire McCaskill was the first woman elected to the Senate from red state Missouri. George II Nov 2020 #70

Yep. This "Democrats bashing other Democrats" shit is nauseating. GoCubsGo Nov 2020 #79

Truly... ehrnst Nov 2020 #109

Yeah I am just ready to trash this thread. Didn't Biden call for unity DLCWIdem Nov 2020 #168

Does she mean like Stacey Abrams? Hekate Nov 2020 #69

Boom! StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #76

Boom. Cha Nov 2020 #91

Maybe AOC could move to a competitive district and show us n/t Azathoth Nov 2020 #75

+1,000,000 highplainsdem Nov 2020 #112

I love AOC! budkin Nov 2020 #82

I think younger Democrats should not publicly attack veteran Democrats AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #86

I think veteran Democrats should not publicly attack the Democratic Party. Mariana Nov 2020 #244

I don't agree Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #94

Indeed. alarimer Nov 2020 #98

Rep Ocasio-Cortez endorsed Greenfield several days before the election. How did that endorsement go still_one Nov 2020 #103

Hey AOC! Run a statewide race in New York and win it! Wanderlust988 Nov 2020 #132

I wonder if she means Bernie Sanders? AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #150

I think this falls under BainsBane Nov 2020 #196

+1 well said AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #203

I would rather listen to someone with years of experience as... Spazito Nov 2020 #166

She's right to a point dflprincess Nov 2020 #167

Yes, that was my view in 2016 BainsBane Nov 2020 #176

You must define "this election" as just the President. former9thward Nov 2020 #225

Yes, the presidency BainsBane Nov 2020 #227

AOC! Correct again. Autumn Nov 2020 #217

Yes! melman Nov 2020 #222

They should calm down. She won't hurt them Autumn Nov 2020 #232

It's ridiculous. Mariana Nov 2020 #239

she is right, and if we try and lurch even more to the right it will be disastrous Celerity Nov 2020 #229

You really think that AOC could get elected to office in Missouri? Or Tennessee? ehrnst Nov 2020 #292

Strawman. I never said that an AOC type was a universal model. What I am saying is that Celerity Nov 2020 #294

The reason why AOC was angry here Withywindle Nov 2020 #305

Yes melman Nov 2020 #393

I lulz'd KG Nov 2020 #376

Why is the word "transsexuals" in quotes? CTyankee Nov 2020 #387

Because that is considered an outdated term and is offensive to some melman Nov 2020 #389

Thanks. I have a transgender grandson and I use the term transgender but I thought it was the CTyankee Nov 2020 #394

I don't honestly have a good answer for what is a winning strategy Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2020 #424

AOC could always put her money where her mouth is and run for the open Senate seat in Missouri in OnDoutside Nov 2020 #463

I agree with McCAskill Gothmog Nov 2020 #473

Well, it appears that Lindsay Graham has retweeted this. ehrnst Nov 2020 #498

Let's take a look at Lindsay's tweet, shall we? melman Nov 2020 #501

Who said that he's agreeing with her? ehrnst Nov 2020 #502

Right melman Nov 2020 #503