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wnylib

(21,433 posts)
34. I don't think you've completely lost the ability
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:07 PM
Oct 2020

to be empathetic. Sounds like your empathy is focused on the victims and lacking for the perpetrators. Some people can feel empathy for both perpetrators and victims.

But when the perpetrator has the power to do great harm to a great number of people, and you are emotionally invested in stopping him and in caring for and about the people he has harmed, it is draining to still feel for the perpetrator and anyone who abets him. You end up wanting relief for yourself as well as for the victims - or at least I do. Something gives and you close off the part of yourself that could feel for the perp and those who abet him.

I can feel sadness for what Trump has become. To me, his childhood is transparent in his adult behavior. That transparency is aided by insights from Mary Trump. I can feel sadness for what makes people identify with him enough to support him.

But I cannot empathize with him or them beyond that. I don't have that much energy in me. It is taken up with seeing him - and them - stopped. It is taken up with concern for their victims. It is taken up with looking after my own well being, too, in the nightmare that Trump and his supporters have created. I have no energy left for Trump, his enablers, or his supporters.

I suspect that how you feel is similar to how I feel, since you have expressed concern for the people he has harmed, continues to harm, and will harm if not stopped. That is a person who has reached their empathy limit, but has not lost it completely.

I hear you, but I haven't lost my empathy for two reasons marylandblue Oct 2020 #1
I have tried choosing empathy Cirque du So-What Oct 2020 #3
Everybody is a hypocrite by definition. marylandblue Oct 2020 #7
I'm relatively certain Cirque du So-What Oct 2020 #9
How many times can you get kicked while you're down Bettie Oct 2020 #10
Good post. cwydro Oct 2020 #20
Some of the wisest words I have read in years The Mouth Oct 2020 #30
I too find my empathetic inclinations challenged these past four years Cirque du So-What Oct 2020 #2
This is one of the most profound effects of Trump's ascendency. enough Oct 2020 #4
I agree, Cyrano, volstork Oct 2020 #5
I understand completely.... nebby70 Oct 2020 #6
You speak for me too chia Oct 2020 #8
I totally agree with you. Freedomofspeech Oct 2020 #11
We didn't have empathy for fascists in WW2. roamer65 Oct 2020 #12
+1 Justice must always precede Ponietz Oct 2020 #28
There's nothing wrong with you Leith Oct 2020 #13
I have not lost my empathy I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2020 #14
I recall Voltaire's quote about making people believe in absurdities can make them commit atrocities BSdetect Oct 2020 #15
Empathy is a sign of weakness to Republicans Zorro Oct 2020 #16
right?! barbtries Oct 2020 #41
It's hard, and I'm on the path there. Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #17
I think wishing him dead IS showing empathy, just not for him, but rather for all of those deurbano Oct 2020 #39
It's part and parcel of their depressed/suicical state. Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #44
It'll return. You're just in an abusive relationship. ffr Oct 2020 #18
Speaking of Moscow Mitch, several months back I had a dream about him..... KS Toronado Oct 2020 #37
Your empathy is rationally conditional that's normal for a logical human being. Can you be merciful uponit7771 Oct 2020 #19
It's OK to hate the embodiment of pure evil. ananda Oct 2020 #21
I have none for trump-pets either llashram Oct 2020 #22
This is getting expensive... OxQQme Oct 2020 #23
Good Buddha quote. Thanks. calimary Oct 2020 #35
Wait, what? Confused as to why you are lumping Trump's kidnapping victims BusyBeingBest Oct 2020 #24
Reread it...."And as for those WHO kidnapped children" StarryNite Oct 2020 #31
Yes, I added an edit, I am a slowpoke this morning. BusyBeingBest Oct 2020 #33
I'm still a bleeding-heart liberal, and I wanted those freezing Trumpers to be ok. dawg Oct 2020 #25
This war will harden us, we must try to mute the impact on our souls bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #26
one of the reasons i hate republicans and trump so much barbtries Oct 2020 #27
Reread my OP. I'm referring to the border patrol, Cyrano Oct 2020 #47
i knew that. barbtries Oct 2020 #49
Sorry, I just reread your post. Cyrano Oct 2020 #50
Thanks Cyrano. barbtries Oct 2020 #51
Just a thought about that: RVN VET71 Oct 2020 #29
4 months. barbtries Oct 2020 #42
It seems to me that you are feeling anger and pain. cate94 Oct 2020 #32
I don't think you've completely lost the ability wnylib Oct 2020 #34
I am the same way. nycbos Oct 2020 #36
People have become meaner and nastier under this administration. Initech Oct 2020 #38
I have great empathy for all creatures great and small OriginalGeek Oct 2020 #40
I think the fantasy of not caring helps in not feeling powerless. nolabear Oct 2020 #43
It is always in us, all the time. Caliman73 Oct 2020 #45
Humans are an overrated species. My empathy was segregated long ago. miyazaki Oct 2020 #46
The empathy is there, it is for treestar Oct 2020 #48
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