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102. Why I post on news.yahoo.com's comment section - because of the abysmal ignorance
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 11:49 PM
Sep 2012
She talked about how bad the economy is and blamed it on Obama. I asked if she knew how many jobs the country was losing per month at the end of the Bush administration. Of course she did not. I got on line and showed her that 800,000 jobs per month were being lost when Bush left office. I asked if she knew if there has been growth in private sector jobs since Obama took office or is the country still losing jobs. She did not. I showed her the chart of the growth in private sector jobs under Obama. She said it must be government jobs because Obama has expanded the government....


I've been ridiculed for wasting my time posting on the comments section on various articles at news.yahoo.com. People tell me only hard-core righties and lefties read the comments (no evidence for that is given of course) (many articles garner thousands of responses). But when I see something like the above that you wrote, it makes me more determined to be a "LibTard" and keep posting what I've shown below in blue (I usually keep my posts shorter, in keeping with the norm of news.yahoo.com comments, but I draw on the below for my posts on the economy).

On another subject, Obama has very definitely lowered lower- and middle-class taxes - Google "Making Work Pay Tax Credit" and the partial payroll tax holiday. And taxes overall. The "a 1% tax on checks that are direct deposited from employers" is sheer fiction.

Oh by the way, I have a ton of facts like the below in blue about the economy -- along with the official sources, at http://www.democraticunderground.com/111622439

Then there's CabCurious's thread full of economic facts and charts and graphics -- see my signature line. In case I change my signature line, its at http://www.democraticunderground.com/125170175

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It took 8 years for Bush to ruin the growing economy that Clinton handed him (and turn a budget surplus into a near doubling of the national debt (1.86-fold increase, thanks Bush), and you CONNEDservatives are complaining that Obama hasn't completely reversed 8 years of Republican economic ruination in 3 1/2 years?

Do you really want to hand the keys back to the people who drove the economy off the cliff? When Bush left office, he handed Obama an economy that had already shed 4.3 million jobs in Bush's last 10 months, and the GDP was contracting at a 8.9% annual rate (Q4 2008). At the end of the Bush presidency, the unemployment rate was 3.5 percentage points higher than when he began his presidency.

4.6 million payroll jobs have been created in the last 30 months. Bush only created 1.1 million payroll jobs in his entire 8 year presidency - ironically by creating 1.8 million government jobs and destroying 0.7 million private sector jobs

Ruinous Republican policies also drove the U.S. stock market (S&P 500) down 37% during those 8 Bush years -- from 1343 to 850. As an investor, I'd rather go with Obama -- its up to 1466 as of Friday 9/14 close, up 72% since he took office. (Google: Historical Prices - Yahoo Finance S&P 500 ). Clearly the business and investor community has a lot more confidence in Obama than it did in Bush.[/font]
and that's the way political discussions should be! renate Sep 2012 #1
Boy, you're GOOD! gateley Sep 2012 #2
+1. You handled her with gentleness and facts. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #36
+1.nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #76
I would have mentioned that she has no right to discuss the economic condition of the sinkingfeeling Sep 2012 #3
I could have done that, but thought I might get the point Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #7
Someone posted here (on DU) not long ago... kag Sep 2012 #129
Thanks for the FABULOUS job you did, elleng Sep 2012 #4
Good for you. If you talk to her again, ask her how she feels about Stericycle and Romney making $$ progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #5
Actually, business is slow, but steady. Some new hiring lately. Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #12
Every other form of killing is acceptable and patriotic orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #6
Yes. Repubs want war against everyone and want to starve the poor. But as long as they SAY they are anneboleyn Sep 2012 #63
I don't know how Romney and RepubliCONS can call themselves Christian fasttense Sep 2012 #115
I think you presented the case well. The only thing I would like to know how she feels is if she still_one Sep 2012 #8
For future reference: Keystone Pipeline is to ship Canadian oil to countries other than the USA... rfranklin Sep 2012 #9
Thank you for that clarification. I will save the info. nt Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #14
Great Job Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #49
Thanks, will keep that info. nt Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #50
and you can also point out Mnpaul Sep 2012 #110
Good on you. renie408 Sep 2012 #10
She actually was not pushy. She was cordial and it was a good discussion. Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #30
She wants to make HER religious view of the world mandatory for the rest of us... renie408 Sep 2012 #37
Good start. JoePhilly Sep 2012 #11
I salute your bravery and your patience Tsiyu Sep 2012 #13
I used to not be so patient. I used to go ballistic. Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #15
I've gotten a little better myself, but I still couldn't do what you did Tsiyu Sep 2012 #18
You did a beautiful job. Demoiselle Sep 2012 #16
Well handled! Rider3 Sep 2012 #17
Nicely done, thanks for not letting the bullshit stand unchallenged. Scuba Sep 2012 #19
You should have told her about... slor Sep 2012 #20
Obama "probably" born in U.S. and "probably not" a Muslim NICO9000 Sep 2012 #21
Yes, I noticed those "probably" inserts. She didn't have it in her to say Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #53
You did a great job. Ilsa Sep 2012 #22
Oddly enough though I do the same... In regards to the abortion issue Xyzse Sep 2012 #23
If you get to talk to her again tell her about Romney and Stericyle lunatica Sep 2012 #24
You should tell her Romney was pro-choice when he was Governor of Mass NYtoBush-Drop Dead Sep 2012 #25
I also admire your fortitude and SheilaT Sep 2012 #26
There is a huge difference between being pro-choice and being pro-abortion MiniMe Sep 2012 #27
Nice job treestar Sep 2012 #28
Couldn't agree more. Not Sure Sep 2012 #40
The 1 % tax on direct depsits is BS. Check snopes. trof Sep 2012 #29
As I said, I did not have the facts at hand to refute that one. Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #55
Great job!! N_E_1 for Tennis Sep 2012 #31
Nicely done. Low-key. Chorophyll Sep 2012 #32
Props to you, Tennessee Gal! Cha Sep 2012 #33
WOW, I get into this conversation everyday... humbled_opinion Sep 2012 #34
in a perfect world maindawg Sep 2012 #45
my thoughts exactly northoftheborder Sep 2012 #88
Jesus knew all about rich people using their "faith" to try and get out of paying taxes Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #106
In reading this, MissNostalgia Sep 2012 #35
LOL! Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #57
Good job refuting all of that missinformation so effectively! DrewFlorida Sep 2012 #38
Fabulous!!!!! Tumbulu Sep 2012 #39
From one fellow Christian to another skeewee08 Sep 2012 #41
Whenever I think of what the person Christianity was founded on was really like, LittlestStar Sep 2012 #42
Don't be too hard on the OP's friend Wednesdays Sep 2012 #68
Well it was the utterly brainwashed notion that "god" wants his flock to be against abortion LittlestStar Sep 2012 #85
Email: Obama to Impose 1% Bank Transaction Tax oberliner Sep 2012 #43
Thank you for that link. Will keep it for the future! nt Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #59
No problem oberliner Sep 2012 #78
Yes, I should have recommended she try some fact checking because Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #80
the robin hood tax mopinko Sep 2012 #84
you really let us down tapermaker Sep 2012 #44
You are stoned? At work? jtuck004 Sep 2012 #46
I would say she's getting it from her church friends. nt ellisonz Sep 2012 #47
Bravo! Tennessee Gal ANOIS Sep 2012 #48
well done proud patriot Sep 2012 #51
If you see her again bongbong Sep 2012 #52
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #54
YaRRRggglLLLeee BLLLURRRggLaRRRtrrrggHHHllle WArrrg DERP Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #56
OMG I can't stop laughing at this BumRushDaShow Sep 2012 #67
Why do I feel like I've just chugged a bottle of Nyquil? n/t gkhouston Sep 2012 #77
Have a nice life. nt Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #60
PLEASE, PLEEEEZE leave this post alone. I beg you. Gabi Hayes Sep 2012 #62
Someone alerted on it and it is gone. It wasn't me, although I did think about it. nt Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #64
We can still tee off in this subthread ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2012 #70
Bravo! bluemarkers Sep 2012 #58
Could remind her that US Catholic bishops slammed Ryan's budget for brutalizing the poor anneboleyn Sep 2012 #61
Yes, that is one I will try to remember, as well as the Nuns on the Bus! nt Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #65
Hey Tennessee DonRedwood Sep 2012 #66
Oh no, honey. Your coworker might be going to hell LaydeeBug Sep 2012 #69
Upon reflection since leaving work, more of the conversation is coming back to me. Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #71
You covered the waterfront pretty well.... Doc Holliday Sep 2012 #79
Yes, the liar point is a good one especially in this election cycle. Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #81
to add azureblue Sep 2012 #92
Excellent points and thank you! nt Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #94
Bravo! TuxedoKat Sep 2012 #132
your handling of that discussion shireen Sep 2012 #72
you're the kind of Christian that Gandhi would like BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2012 #73
Nice work! crispini Sep 2012 #74
Thank you all for the positive posts! I appreciate your support. Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #75
I FORGOT THE BEST PART! I sold her more than $500 worth of product after this discussion! Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #82
Wow! mikki35 Sep 2012 #83
Usually I think of what I should have said later on, as you say. Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #87
I, too, am a liberal BECAUSE I am a Christian. smackd Sep 2012 #86
Thank you for posting and welcome to DU. Please post more often. Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #90
Exactly. smackd Sep 2012 #93
Welcome to DU! pamela Sep 2012 #105
I get this (similar interactions) every day at work!! hue Sep 2012 #89
Thanks for that post. speedoo Sep 2012 #91
Christian and a Liberal .. Love it! FunMe Sep 2012 #95
That is absolutely fantastic! Thanks for posting it! Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #96
You should have asked her: Loudestlib Sep 2012 #97
Hell doesn't exist. OnyxCollie Sep 2012 #98
Another way to look at it is to make the point that if Romeny is elected Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #101
Yours is the "duck" model... calm on the water... MrMickeysMom Sep 2012 #99
Your points on abortion are good ones. Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #100
on abortions azureblue Sep 2012 #112
Why I post on news.yahoo.com's comment section - because of the abysmal ignorance progree Sep 2012 #102
Excellent information. Bookmarked the threads. Thanks. nt Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #116
Well done, don't be offensive, but firmly show them they cannot take for granted BlueStreak Sep 2012 #103
Thank you. DeSwiss Sep 2012 #104
Hopefully you put a little pin hole in her bubble. . B Calm Sep 2012 #107
You did a wonderful thing! RainDog Sep 2012 #108
You did a FANTASTIC job! Facts are wonderful things sometimes! One request: calimary Sep 2012 #109
Here is a wealth of information: Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #117
That's a Fort Knox of information! That's a wrongney's secret book-keeping of information! calimary Sep 2012 #134
That's the best possible approach with a low-info voter Zambero Sep 2012 #111
Awesome. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2012 #113
Wow, I've been dying to have one of those coversations! ermasdaughter Sep 2012 #114
It has occurred to me that should I get the chance it might be effective Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #118
I consider myself... GTurck Sep 2012 #119
Thank you very much for the compliment! Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #120
IMO Mr Dixon Sep 2012 #121
hell mgardener Sep 2012 #122
I know. I can't imagine living in such a fantasy world as the person I Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #123
she'll probably not vote, now msedano Sep 2012 #124
I don't think she fired the company I work for. Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #126
I once lost a friend at work when she was going on about "pro abortion" people, maddiemom Sep 2012 #125
Must not have been a very strong Democrat or Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #127
I run into the "I don't want to go to hell" reason a lot. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #128
This was my first time to be faced with that particular one. Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #130
TIME FOR THE CHURCHES TO START PAYING TAXES! maddiemom Sep 2012 #136
Not every church preaches politics from the pulpit. Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #137
Excellent. If you talk with her again ask her LibDemAlways Sep 2012 #131
what links did you show her Glaisne Sep 2012 #133
I just googled private sector job growth and came up with one to show her. Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #135
Update, and yes this is a kick. Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #138
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