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Nye Bevan

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61. I trust President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton to handle this the right way.

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Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:29 PM

Sep 2012

I think they have earned this trust.

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Obama rattling the saber against Iran, [View all] MadHound Sep 2012 OP

And, did Israel sign a NPT that I somehow missed? I don't be thinking so! teddy51 Sep 2012 #1

I certainly agree with some of what you say. Vattel Sep 2012 #2

Because Iran and it's friends are not likely to stand idly by well some country's bomb the shit teddy51 Sep 2012 #5

But do they have the anti-aircraft capability to inflict serious damage on our forces? Vattel Sep 2012 #9

That I don't know, but as we do know Iran is not opposed to using suicide bombers teddy51 Sep 2012 #10

Is there proof that IRAN is using suicide bombers? I mean we've seen them in Iraq and Afghanistan, Erose999 Sep 2012 #84

Depends on what you mean by "suicide bomber." Scootaloo Sep 2012 #90

human waves would just be chewed up by a modern military loli phabay Sep 2012 #95

They would be. And they were. Scootaloo Sep 2012 #96

bit hard to do a sneak attack with human waves loli phabay Sep 2012 #97

I really ought to be paid to tutor... Scootaloo Sep 2012 #98

in 91 we saw what a modern military would do to a second world power loli phabay Sep 2012 #101

I'm just saying don't underestimate them. Scootaloo Sep 2012 #102

They have the anti-ship capability... Scootaloo Sep 2012 #77

well if iran is nowhere close to getting a nuclear weapon, then we're not close to war. spanone Sep 2012 #3

I Support My President DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #4

And that's the attitude that led directly to the escalation of the Vietnam War MadHound Sep 2012 #6

There's no evidence he advocates military action fujiyama Sep 2012 #66

Did you read the speech? MadHound Sep 2012 #78

No, actually, it's really not. Arkana Sep 2012 #86

Do you support a war with Iran and if so, why? Have they threatened the US? As far sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #74

Saber rattling is diplomacy. cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #7

Saber rattling is what led us into Iraq. MadHound Sep 2012 #8

the current iranian regime having nukes would be a lot worse loli phabay Sep 2012 #16

Why would Iran having nukes be any worse than Israel having them? I haven't heard sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #75

so you trust the nutjobs in iran loli phabay Sep 2012 #81

Why not take Israel at its word that it is going to use tactical nukes to sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #85

Because that's not their word. Scootaloo Sep 2012 #91

Quit that map wiping nonsense cpwm17 Sep 2012 #103

yep guilty as charged i am bigotted against the iranian regime loli phabay Sep 2012 #104

a refusal to take yes for an answer led us into Iraq cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #19

"That was Bush invading Iraq no matter what." Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #24

Yep. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #42

Actually lies about WMDs and a lust for oil led us into Iraq. Bucky Sep 2012 #25

No it is not fujiyama Sep 2012 #67

Another poor student of history, MadHound Sep 2012 #79

What is most worrying tama Sep 2012 #11

Not really. bluestate10 Sep 2012 #32

MIC has always taste for more war tama Sep 2012 #37

I understand. Romney's poll numbers suck. Sorry. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2012 #12

What does this discussion have to do with Romney's poll numbers? n/t MadHound Sep 2012 #14

He's got nothing substantive, just snark. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #18

Romney supporters are getting desperate as he sinks even lower in the polls. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #22

Criticizing Obama's foreign policy = Romney supporter? leftstreet Sep 2012 #27

Do you dispute my observation? Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #33

I don't believe for a moment the OP is a troll. DemocratsForProgress Sep 2012 #39

Good observations. Scurrilous Sep 2012 #46

Boilerplate or not, it's obviously saber-rattling. Vattel Sep 2012 #53

Yours is a more insightful analysis than anything in the OP. DemocratsForProgress Sep 2012 #73

Your observation that criticism of Obama policy = trolls? Yes leftstreet Sep 2012 #43

Despite the same name Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #48

So, are you trying to imply that I'm a Romney supporter? MadHound Sep 2012 #50

Some people can't stand to hear ANY criticism of Obama Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2012 #88

You Better Believe It. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #82

That fact is really getting to some people, isn't it? Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #29

The worse it gets for Rmoney, expect the "Obama Sucks Too" crowd to try & divert! Tarheel_Dem Sep 2012 #31

True that! Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #38

At least they're dependable. If the president has a good news day, you know what's coming next. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2012 #40

Ah, yes, but ... Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #44

^^^ THIS ^^^!!!! Tarheel_Dem Sep 2012 #64

It seems that way fujiyama Sep 2012 #68

Let's face it, we have our very own version of the teabaggers on the left. There I said it. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2012 #71

So, now you do show your true colors, MadHound Sep 2012 #80

I thought the Admins must be out of town again at first. DevonRex Sep 2012 #49

How indeed? I realize that DU is now a business. Sometimes business conflicts with.... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2012 #65

... DevonRex Sep 2012 #70

Good on you. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2012 #72

heh heh Whisp Sep 2012 #100

I don't think the President had a choice in what to say former-republican Sep 2012 #13

Of course he had a choice, MadHound Sep 2012 #17

Yes, ProSense Sep 2012 #15

One would think that after backing Bibi down over the issue of Iran, MadHound Sep 2012 #20

Ah yes, ProSense Sep 2012 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author fujiyama Sep 2012 #69

Iran is threatening us! leftstreet Sep 2012 #21

Funny. Bucky Sep 2012 #28

President Obama said nothing that he hasn't said before. nt bluestate10 Sep 2012 #23

He's just doing his job. nt Comrade_McKenzie Sep 2012 #30

Really who are we to tell another country Smilo Sep 2012 #34

So JFK shouldn't have worried about Cuba getting nukes? (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #62

If I had been an adult at the time with a good knowledge of foreign affairs, no Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2012 #89

I was alive and aware during the missle crisis and you don't know what you're talking about. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2012 #93

airpower Dedicated Mind Sep 2012 #35

And suppose that leads to a nuclear exchange between, say Russia and the US? Then what? teddy51 Sep 2012 #36

Other countries should be telling US to get rid of nukes raw raina Sep 2012 #41

Nice try.... ohheckyeah Sep 2012 #45

After inserting more troops into Afghanistan, MadHound Sep 2012 #52

Tread lightly, Grasshopper Cirque du So-What Sep 2012 #47

Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #51

Masters, what masters? MadHound Sep 2012 #55

MadHound: You and I are on the same page. My problem is, I am not prepared to bad mouth the teddy51 Sep 2012 #57

If not now, when? MadHound Sep 2012 #58

So would you want to see a Romney Presidency? teddy51 Sep 2012 #59

I'm always astonished when somebody draws that misguided, wrongheaded conclusion MadHound Sep 2012 #60

Well said, and I am now convinced that the effort to silence people during election sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #76

I'm with you and the other respondants to your post. amandabeech Sep 2012 #110

So Iran will be the tripwire for WWIII Kennah Sep 2012 #54

Perhaps they will, or will it be Israel? My money is on Israel! teddy51 Sep 2012 #56

Minor semantics. I suspect Israel will attack Iran saying, "Iran did something." Kennah Sep 2012 #105

I trust President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton to handle this the right way. Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #61

Sorry, but I trust no politician in high office, MadHound Sep 2012 #63

Then why bother participating in the political system? Arkana Sep 2012 #87

I guess I need to get my own "Obama secret message" decoder ring. JoePhilly Sep 2012 #83

Excuse me, "the usual platitudes and pontifications"? Waiting For Everyman Sep 2012 #92

"And you're a Democrat?" Tarheel_Dem Sep 2012 #94

And he ain't a kidder'in. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #99

DU Rec. woo me with science Sep 2012 #106

Madhound campaigning against Dems, based on bullshit, like usual. dionysus Sep 2012 #107

I don't see any saber rattling in that treestar Sep 2012 #108

An invasion of Iran is only about the oil. It's the last of the big five reserves Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #109

goofy fascisthunter Sep 2012 #111