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mzmolly

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25. I disagree. Should we pretend that various legislatures

Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:54 PM

Sep 2020

have not been contacted by Trump's camp?

I don't think the argument is that Trump will win regardless. It's that we can't let him get close enough to steal it. It's that we have one last shot to save our democracy.

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Shame on Rachel. [View all] Sogo Sep 2020 OP

how does it suppress the vote? fishwax Sep 2020 #1

Definitely not alone - but it absolutely discourages voters. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #4

that seems more like those people trying to discourage the vote. Which is different from what fishwax Sep 2020 #16

Yes.. this kind of dark scenario is infective. And yes, it hardens the resolve of some but weakens Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #68

Yes. You're getting a dozen mixed messages. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #69

"Why vote if they're just going to steal it anyway?" Jeebo Sep 2020 #71

Yes but that's not how it works in the real world. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #73

You know what will really discourage voters? RhodeIslandOne Sep 2020 #77

Well keep at it and we'll get both. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #80

Bullshit RhodeIslandOne Sep 2020 #81

lmao you're not who I worry about... Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #84

Suppresses the vote because it makes people feel helpless and that Sogo Sep 2020 #6

I think energies are best spent countering the helplessness. Not attacking the messenger. fishwax Sep 2020 #19

I've seen RM in many moods, some quite adamant, but never hysterical. Did you choose that word... Hekate Sep 2020 #83

Rachel is not wrong to report a story Rule of Claw Sep 2020 #2

You can say that thirty more times. n/t rzemanfl Sep 2020 #8

The sheer improbability..exactly Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #18

Yes, you are correct. Sogo Sep 2020 #34

Adam Schiff didn't "dial back her hysteria"-- he seconded every one of her facts Hekate Sep 2020 #99

Was there not an elector who was supposed to vote for HRC but voted for Trump in 2016? Boogiemack Sep 2020 #40

Here is the answer to my own question. Boogiemack Sep 2020 #45

Here's the SCOTUS ruling on faithless electors from 7/20 Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #72

Why is it improbable? qazplm135 Sep 2020 #78

I'm voting early and in person because mzmolly Sep 2020 #3

I'm doing the same, counter to my original plan of a mail-in ballot. bullwinkle428 Sep 2020 #9

She thrives on "talk me down" scenarios nt sweetloukillbot Sep 2020 #5

I agree. Switch it off and vote. tman Sep 2020 #7

My ballot isn't here yet but I need to get some stuff out of the dryer. n/t rzemanfl Sep 2020 #13

I know how you feel. After so many loads there's a lot of... Hekate Sep 2020 #61

Thanks for commiserating. n/t rzemanfl Sep 2020 #64

That is what she does 4now Sep 2020 #10

What do you want? SergeStorms Sep 2020 #11

Right. She's pointing out that Republican led legislatures have been contacted mzmolly Sep 2020 #14

This logic is baffling. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #23

I disagree. Should we pretend that various legislatures mzmolly Sep 2020 #25

Reporting is different than fanning the flames like Rachel is doing. She's careless. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #28

Please watch the show if you can. mzmolly Sep 2020 #33

I'll pass. I've had enough freak out from DUers to get me through the week. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #38

Psyops.... Sogo Sep 2020 #42

So is mzmolly Sep 2020 #56

Think about this ..in the end SCOTUS even a conservative one will have to subvert the will of the Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #85

The question will be mzmolly Sep 2020 #86

I have not gotten over Bush v Gore. I bet Kavanaugh hasn't either, but in a whole different way.... Hekate Sep 2020 #101

Are you effing accusing Rachel Maddow of psyops? Please speak plainly, Sogo. Hekate Sep 2020 #79

What's amazing is that some don't take mzmolly Sep 2020 #43

Trump thrives on chaos and fear. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #53

My POV Is that we need to educate in order to plan. mzmolly Sep 2020 #62

Sure which proves my point. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #66

Thank you!! Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #74

I think we can take him seriously mzmolly Sep 2020 #90

Considering there's been like five threads in the last hour about people saying they're freaking out Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #94

This. Sogo Sep 2020 #95

She reported on the Atlantic mzmolly Sep 2020 #102

+1,000,000 Sogo Sep 2020 #63

+1000 Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #44

PSA by the FBI helps clarification UCmeNdc Sep 2020 #98

Agreed, Drunken Irishman.... Sogo Sep 2020 #39

please do some reading on this. You'll feel better. Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #32

Thank you. SergeStorms Sep 2020 #36

He's trying to get the SCOTUS mzmolly Sep 2020 #37

Joyce Vance said that now that voting has begun, the justice he appoints Sogo Sep 2020 #46

I think that's the appropriate mzmolly Sep 2020 #49

Justice Roberts should have some say in it.... Sogo Sep 2020 #51

I'm not counting mzmolly Sep 2020 #52

Answer me this- do you really think that the Roberts court is willing to subvert the vote, undo the Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #59

I didn't think the SCOTUS mzmolly Sep 2020 #65

2000 was a completely different scenario. A legit recount and a poorly designed ballot Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #92

You keep saying "name him dictator" melman Sep 2020 #97

I live in Florida MOMFUDSKI Sep 2020 #47

He needs more than just FL to win. Deathsantis is nuts yes. biden would appeal this to SCOTUS Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #88

That is exactily what they want. BigmanPigman Sep 2020 #30

Exactly! mzmolly Sep 2020 #48

I just don't understand some people. Why say it will depress the votes? Why not say Boogiemack Sep 2020 #54

Totally Agree Me. Sep 2020 #12

Pure BS! It is a story that needs discussed. Head in sand your solution?? nt USALiberal Sep 2020 #24

Heads Are Not On The Sand Me. Sep 2020 #27

She needs to cover it, Trump is a serious threat. And it WILL help get votes, not hurt! nt USALiberal Sep 2020 #31

Post removed Post removed Sep 2020 #15

The republicans are messing with the media and the people don't get freaked FloridaBlues Sep 2020 #17

Cable news is entertainment, even Maddow. Codeine Sep 2020 #20

It's informative mzmolly Sep 2020 #29

Oh, I agree she's informative. Codeine Sep 2020 #67

Play acting? SophieJean Sep 2020 #96

Rachel is not bdamomma Sep 2020 #21

Schiff is on now Nexus2 Sep 2020 #22

Exactly. mzmolly Sep 2020 #26

23 days dweller Sep 2020 #35

It does nothing to suppress the vote. Autumn Sep 2020 #41

See post #4. Sogo Sep 2020 #50

I'm going to trust what Rachel and Schiff have to say over some poster on a message board. Autumn Sep 2020 #87

Me too. triron Sep 2020 #91

Shame on you. Crunchy Frog Sep 2020 #55

2 refs should tell you something! Nt USALiberal Sep 2020 #57

I changed to Forensic Files Rice4VP Sep 2020 #58

I don't watch cable news budkin Sep 2020 #60

Is there such a thing as a nocoincidences Sep 2020 #70

If anything it should motivate EVERYONE to vote RhodeIslandOne Sep 2020 #75

No you better go vote. Get mad and vote at all costs, dare Trump to steal you vote. UCmeNdc Sep 2020 #76

MSNBC has been racheting up the fearmongering DeminPennswoods Sep 2020 #82

I'm watching it now. It's terrifying, but at least it's being exposed now ecstatic Sep 2020 #89

I remember hearing trump can never win in 2016. kacekwl Sep 2020 #93

The best way to avoid the scenario is an overwhelming Biden lead. meadowlander Sep 2020 #100