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redqueen

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11. It seems like the default reaction.

Sun Sep 23, 2012, 09:34 PM

Sep 2012

Like we have to un-learn the immediate response, which due to society is to look for some way to blame the girl or woman.

http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2007/10/20/internalized-sexism/

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Creepshots and revenge porn: how paparazzi culture affects women [View all] redqueen Sep 2012 OP

Good read. Thank you for posting. nt Coexist Sep 2012 #1

Wow, one of the best articles I've read in a long, long time redqueen. So, so much info here riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #2

It really was hard to choose which paragraphs to use... redqueen Sep 2012 #31

Good article. Thanks for this. It's important to point this crap out, smirkymonkey Sep 2012 #3

I work with a woman who blamed Kate Middleton for getting photographed. Curtland1015 Sep 2012 #4

The photographer was on a public street. Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #7

They weren't. Unless that person was using a very powerful telescopic lense. Curtland1015 Sep 2012 #8

And what of the women whose images are shared on creepshots? redqueen Sep 2012 #9

Not when the photographing is done like this: NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #10

Well, that's a bit different from the Duchess situation. Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #13

I do think the photographer WAS stalking Kate Middleton. MicaelS Sep 2012 #20

You got it. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #21

I don’t understand how that is not illegal. It looks like imprisonment to me. tblue37 Sep 2012 #22

You couldn't have possibly read the article to have made this statement riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #12

Upskirt photography is illegal, is my understanding. Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #14

creepshots isn't upskirt shots. redqueen Sep 2012 #16

This one's been defending the photographer in other threads as well Posteritatis Sep 2012 #51

Define "In view". IIRC the distance was the best part of a mile. TheMadMonk Sep 2012 #17

Kate Middleton was not "in vuew of a public street" obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #32

He could not have taken her photo with a regular camera. To get those shots in a private sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #37

Bathroom/dressing room = reasonable expectation of privacy. Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #38

Not anywhere NEAR a half a mile zoom OriginalGeek Sep 2012 #45

Digital "zoom" on a phone camera isn't exactly a telescope. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #50

If you are on private property, even a back yard, and a neighbor sneaks around taking sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #58

Um no.. Voyeurism should be illegal MattBaggins Sep 2012 #41

It seems like the default reaction. redqueen Sep 2012 #11

Here is my question: weren't there security guards and servants around? adigal Sep 2012 #39

A half mile isn't earshot. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #52

That was a worthwhile article to read, thanks for posting! Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #5

Read this one. theinquisitivechad Sep 2012 #6

K&R nt laundry_queen Sep 2012 #15

While I find this conduct reprehensible Egnever Sep 2012 #18

Please read the first two paragraphs at the link, and tell me how to avoid those situations. nt redqueen Sep 2012 #19

Why, that should be simple lolly Sep 2012 #59

Exactly. Just wear a burqa redqueen Sep 2012 #60

Please explain how people can avoid telephoto-wielding photographers 800m away. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #48

Did you catch the NON-consensual part? undergroundpanther Sep 2012 #23

I would go one step farther and say part of the blame goes to those who seek this content Major Nikon Sep 2012 #25

you are right undergroundpanther Sep 2012 #26

Pervs Major Nikon Sep 2012 #27

It's less like kiddie porn and more JoeyT Sep 2012 #28

Kiddie porn is rape porn Major Nikon Sep 2012 #29

good post. yes. speak out, and humiliate. as a society, just say no. nt seabeyond Sep 2012 #30

It's the modern day equivalent of window peeking or shoe mirrors Major Nikon Sep 2012 #24

Morning kick! nt riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #33

Disturbing. CrispyQ Sep 2012 #34

That is so messed up ismnotwasm Sep 2012 #35

It is a betrayal of trust, something no gentleman would ever do. bemildred Sep 2012 #36

This has gone on forever with the paparazzi - Jackie Kennedy in the 1970s adigal Sep 2012 #40

It is much worse now. redqueen Sep 2012 #42

It is indeed, there used to be a few boundaries, now only fear stops them. bemildred Sep 2012 #43

I wish people would stop paying attention. Stop providing the demand. redqueen Sep 2012 #44

Not much chance of that. bemildred Sep 2012 #53

But there are literally millions of pictures of sexy, naked people on the net... redqueen Sep 2012 #56

Totally agree with you there Tsiyu Sep 2012 #61

It's about consent (and violation of it), power to humiliate, etc... Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #62

Oh I quite agree. billions really, trillions. bemildred Sep 2012 #64

kick Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 #46

Saw the documentary "Videocracy" on Hulu KurtNYC Sep 2012 #47

Thanks for the link!! redqueen Sep 2012 #54

Some people are so sad PowerToThePeople Sep 2012 #49

Recommend. Until we can change perverted, religion based general institutionalized societal Zorra Sep 2012 #55

This thoughtful and well-written article gave me the bloody creeps arcane1 Sep 2012 #57

It is about entitlement...and about marking turf Xedniw Sep 2012 #63