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maxsolomon

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81. Pretty much.

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Fri Aug 14, 2020, 02:27 PM

Aug 2020

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A question for those who are against the use of atomics bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki: [View all] Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 OP

we still have the shame of using the atomic bomb on civilians Demonaut Aug 2020 #1

If you don't choosse any of the options listed, how would you have defeated Japan? Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #2

And we firebombed German civilians. Happy Hoosier Aug 2020 #73

Two bombs did exactly as anticipated Under The Radar Aug 2020 #3

Exactly. Any other realistic option, from an invasion of the Home Islands to simply blockading them Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #38

Set up a soap box in downtown Tokyo this week LuvLoogie Aug 2020 #4

I cant's fly there. Please answer the question. What would you do to defeat Japan in 1945? Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #7

Set nuke off on an Island close by, and followed with ultimatum. Hoyt Aug 2020 #5

They didn't surrender after we nuked one of their cities. Why would a single demonstration bomb Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #10

So you're not asking for responses out of curiosity... LanternWaste Aug 2020 #14

Sure I did. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #23

They were surrounded, beaten, and starving. What the heck were they going to do to us? Hoyt Aug 2020 #20

They were no threat to the USA in March 1945. But they still had to be defeated. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #33

"Two booms - No Americans died. War over. Yay us" is a misnomer. Aristus Aug 2020 #42

Yes, the Nagasaki A-bomb killed 180 POWs. And our bombers killed 68,000 French citizens over the Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #47

Do you have a link to who came up with these "major strategies?" Auggie Aug 2020 #6

Sure! Here you go: Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #11

. Squinch Aug 2020 #8

Points for being brief, I suppose...but would you care to answer the question? Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #13

Your pointless question? No. Squinch Aug 2020 #16

Alas and alack. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #34

I've always thought we should have used the atomic bomb... Jeebo Aug 2020 #9

Have you considered that perhaps Hiroshima sarisataka Aug 2020 #18

Hiiroshima was a military target. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #19

We Had Been Attacking Japanese Cities For Some Time, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2020 #21

"If we had lost the war, we'd all be prosecuted as war criminals." betsuni Aug 2020 #32

Let me clarify. Jeebo Aug 2020 #29

There Are No Such Animacules, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2020 #35

The Japanese were barbaric from Korea to the Philippines. Pearl Harbor was uncivilized. Karadeniz Aug 2020 #12

"the Japanese were warned..." Tanuki Aug 2020 #44

Wording of the leaflets dropped on Hiroshima Nagasaki and 33 other Japanese cities on 1 August 1945 EX500rider Aug 2020 #56

Thank you very much for sharing this information! Tanuki Aug 2020 #57

The Japanese were defeated... albacore Aug 2020 #15

If Threatening The Russians Was The Reason, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2020 #25

drop them Eko Aug 2020 #17

I think Timewas Aug 2020 #22

Quite True, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2020 #28

No if..fish..had..wings Aug 2020 #24

This: Your question is inauthentic Merlot Aug 2020 #26

Was the question of what to do inauthentic for Harry Truman? What should he have done in 1945? Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #36

"Given we are building a pacific empire" EX500rider Aug 2020 #85

Hindsight is better than foresight. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 #27

Early this year I read the book "Hell to Pay" Sherman A1 Aug 2020 #30

You Ask A Good Question, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2020 #37

Thanks for link! burrowowl Aug 2020 #41

I was conceived immediately after the bombing of Nagasaki, born in May 1946. Silver Swan Aug 2020 #31

OH MY FUCKING GOD!! Iggo Aug 2020 #39

It is the 75th Anniversary. Tell you what: I won't start another thread about it until 2044. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #54

I have a better idea. Iggo Aug 2020 #88

possibly nothing? iirc, the Japanese were already considering surrender at the time 0rganism Aug 2020 #40

Japan wanted conditions for an end to hostilities that were intolerable to the allies Ex Lurker Aug 2020 #53

I've spoken to about 50 WW2 veterans at length about their experiences BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #43

How come nobody ever says "Do you know how many Americans would have been killed Aristus Aug 2020 #45

There were no atomic bombs in 1944 Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #49

The bomb wasn't ready in time Ex Lurker Aug 2020 #50

We didn't have nuclear weapons until after Germany was defeated. They weren't an option in 1944 or Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #52

We lost a hell of a lot more than 40,000 fighting the Nazis. Aristus Aug 2020 #55

The nature of the war in the European Theater of Operations was completely different. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #58

It is actually a myth that Japan surrendered because of the atomic bombs. Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #46

Good ? for Death Count Donnie, he should consult with Hara Kiri *cough* Charlie ASAP? Brainfodder Aug 2020 #48

Ah yes. The annual Atomic Bomb dropped on Japan threads. YAY! A HERETIC I AM Aug 2020 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Aug 2020 #59

There was no third atomic bomb at the time Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #60

That's a simple falsehood. hunter Aug 2020 #62

No it's not Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #63

If it helps you sleep at night... hunter Aug 2020 #64

Yes the truth helps me sleep at night Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #65

Bomb assembly was postponed because Japan surrendered. hunter Aug 2020 #70

But had Japan not surrendered, we surely would have ramped up production. As evidence: Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #66

Very interesting Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #67

Your original point is correct; it would have been another two weeks before a third A-bomb could be Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #71

History doesn't work that way. hunter Aug 2020 #61

Legalize Lonnie Anderson's hair. H2O Man Aug 2020 #68

Finally! ornotna Aug 2020 #69

You grow ever-increasingly transparent. nt Codeine Aug 2020 #72

This thread was intitally removed for kooky, extremist, or hate content I appealed, pointing out Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #75

So transparent as to be nearly invisible. nt Codeine Aug 2020 #77

Cool...! Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #78

I shouldn't post on this thread because frogmarch Aug 2020 #74

Alternative, we didn't have to do anything. marie999 Aug 2020 #76

My oppostion or support is irrelevant. maxsolomon Aug 2020 #79

Do you feel the same way about every single event in history? Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #80

Pretty much. maxsolomon Aug 2020 #81

Every time I've killed Hitler, things have turned out worse. hunter Aug 2020 #83

The A-bombs were a savage but necessary action against Japan. Paladin Aug 2020 #82

It really came down to two horrible choices... madinmaryland Aug 2020 #84

An invasion of Japan would have cost hundreds of thousands of allied lives. Paladin Aug 2020 #86

Yeah, no. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2020 #87

Interesting analysis. hunter Aug 2020 #89