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Aristus

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45. How come nobody ever says "Do you know how many Americans would have been killed

Reply to Dial H For Hero (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:24 PM

Aug 2020

if we had invaded Hitler's Fortress Europe in 1944"?

Why were American casualties an acceptable result of fighting the white European Nazis, but not fighting the Japanese? Why were we so eager to nuke non-Europeans?

And BTW, MacArthur wanted to use nukes in Korea. Curtis Lemay wanted to use nukes in Vietnam. Why are nukes only an imperative resource when the adversaries are not white Europeans?

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A question for those who are against the use of atomics bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki: [View all] Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 OP

we still have the shame of using the atomic bomb on civilians Demonaut Aug 2020 #1

If you don't choosse any of the options listed, how would you have defeated Japan? Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #2

And we firebombed German civilians. Happy Hoosier Aug 2020 #73

Two bombs did exactly as anticipated Under The Radar Aug 2020 #3

Exactly. Any other realistic option, from an invasion of the Home Islands to simply blockading them Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #38

Set up a soap box in downtown Tokyo this week LuvLoogie Aug 2020 #4

I cant's fly there. Please answer the question. What would you do to defeat Japan in 1945? Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #7

Set nuke off on an Island close by, and followed with ultimatum. Hoyt Aug 2020 #5

They didn't surrender after we nuked one of their cities. Why would a single demonstration bomb Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #10

So you're not asking for responses out of curiosity... LanternWaste Aug 2020 #14

Sure I did. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #23

They were surrounded, beaten, and starving. What the heck were they going to do to us? Hoyt Aug 2020 #20

They were no threat to the USA in March 1945. But they still had to be defeated. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #33

"Two booms - No Americans died. War over. Yay us" is a misnomer. Aristus Aug 2020 #42

Yes, the Nagasaki A-bomb killed 180 POWs. And our bombers killed 68,000 French citizens over the Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #47

Do you have a link to who came up with these "major strategies?" Auggie Aug 2020 #6

Sure! Here you go: Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #11

. Squinch Aug 2020 #8

Points for being brief, I suppose...but would you care to answer the question? Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #13

Your pointless question? No. Squinch Aug 2020 #16

Alas and alack. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #34

I've always thought we should have used the atomic bomb... Jeebo Aug 2020 #9

Have you considered that perhaps Hiroshima sarisataka Aug 2020 #18

Hiiroshima was a military target. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #19

We Had Been Attacking Japanese Cities For Some Time, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2020 #21

"If we had lost the war, we'd all be prosecuted as war criminals." betsuni Aug 2020 #32

Let me clarify. Jeebo Aug 2020 #29

There Are No Such Animacules, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2020 #35

The Japanese were barbaric from Korea to the Philippines. Pearl Harbor was uncivilized. Karadeniz Aug 2020 #12

"the Japanese were warned..." Tanuki Aug 2020 #44

Wording of the leaflets dropped on Hiroshima Nagasaki and 33 other Japanese cities on 1 August 1945 EX500rider Aug 2020 #56

Thank you very much for sharing this information! Tanuki Aug 2020 #57

The Japanese were defeated... albacore Aug 2020 #15

If Threatening The Russians Was The Reason, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2020 #25

drop them Eko Aug 2020 #17

I think Timewas Aug 2020 #22

Quite True, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2020 #28

No if..fish..had..wings Aug 2020 #24

This: Your question is inauthentic Merlot Aug 2020 #26

Was the question of what to do inauthentic for Harry Truman? What should he have done in 1945? Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #36

"Given we are building a pacific empire" EX500rider Aug 2020 #85

Hindsight is better than foresight. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 #27

Early this year I read the book "Hell to Pay" Sherman A1 Aug 2020 #30

You Ask A Good Question, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2020 #37

Thanks for link! burrowowl Aug 2020 #41

I was conceived immediately after the bombing of Nagasaki, born in May 1946. Silver Swan Aug 2020 #31

OH MY FUCKING GOD!! Iggo Aug 2020 #39

It is the 75th Anniversary. Tell you what: I won't start another thread about it until 2044. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #54

I have a better idea. Iggo Aug 2020 #88

possibly nothing? iirc, the Japanese were already considering surrender at the time 0rganism Aug 2020 #40

Japan wanted conditions for an end to hostilities that were intolerable to the allies Ex Lurker Aug 2020 #53

I've spoken to about 50 WW2 veterans at length about their experiences BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #43

How come nobody ever says "Do you know how many Americans would have been killed Aristus Aug 2020 #45

There were no atomic bombs in 1944 Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #49

The bomb wasn't ready in time Ex Lurker Aug 2020 #50

We didn't have nuclear weapons until after Germany was defeated. They weren't an option in 1944 or Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #52

We lost a hell of a lot more than 40,000 fighting the Nazis. Aristus Aug 2020 #55

The nature of the war in the European Theater of Operations was completely different. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #58

It is actually a myth that Japan surrendered because of the atomic bombs. Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #46

Good ? for Death Count Donnie, he should consult with Hara Kiri *cough* Charlie ASAP? Brainfodder Aug 2020 #48

Ah yes. The annual Atomic Bomb dropped on Japan threads. YAY! A HERETIC I AM Aug 2020 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Aug 2020 #59

There was no third atomic bomb at the time Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #60

That's a simple falsehood. hunter Aug 2020 #62

No it's not Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #63

If it helps you sleep at night... hunter Aug 2020 #64

Yes the truth helps me sleep at night Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #65

Bomb assembly was postponed because Japan surrendered. hunter Aug 2020 #70

But had Japan not surrendered, we surely would have ramped up production. As evidence: Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #66

Very interesting Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #67

Your original point is correct; it would have been another two weeks before a third A-bomb could be Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #71

History doesn't work that way. hunter Aug 2020 #61

Legalize Lonnie Anderson's hair. H2O Man Aug 2020 #68

Finally! ornotna Aug 2020 #69

You grow ever-increasingly transparent. nt Codeine Aug 2020 #72

This thread was intitally removed for kooky, extremist, or hate content I appealed, pointing out Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #75

So transparent as to be nearly invisible. nt Codeine Aug 2020 #77

Cool...! Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #78

I shouldn't post on this thread because frogmarch Aug 2020 #74

Alternative, we didn't have to do anything. marie999 Aug 2020 #76

My oppostion or support is irrelevant. maxsolomon Aug 2020 #79

Do you feel the same way about every single event in history? Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #80

Pretty much. maxsolomon Aug 2020 #81

Every time I've killed Hitler, things have turned out worse. hunter Aug 2020 #83

The A-bombs were a savage but necessary action against Japan. Paladin Aug 2020 #82

It really came down to two horrible choices... madinmaryland Aug 2020 #84

An invasion of Japan would have cost hundreds of thousands of allied lives. Paladin Aug 2020 #86

Yeah, no. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2020 #87

Interesting analysis. hunter Aug 2020 #89