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29. You are correct. Grant didn't buy the enslaved man, did work side by side with him in the field...

Sat Jun 20, 2020, 05:10 PM

Jun 2020

and then freed him even though he was told he could get a lot of money for him.

Grant also wouldn't allow surrendering confederates to keep their slaves. He allowed them to keep their horses and sidearms but not their slaves.

Grant was decent man, and the best general of the Civil War.

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Tearing down Confederate statues I can understand. But Ulysses S. Grant? [View all] jcmaine72 Jun 2020 OP

'We're' into tearing EVERYTHING down now, it seems. elleng Jun 2020 #1

In San Francisco someone last night defaced statues of poets and other non political figures In kimbutgar Jun 2020 #11

We may be in a situation where only from the ashes of oppression can we rebuild in equality. PTWB Jun 2020 #22

Maybe. elleng Jun 2020 #28

No pummeling at all. I agree completely. Recently read that Grant's autobiography is.... EarnestPutz Jun 2020 #2

The 3 part docudrama on tv recently was excellent. kimbutgar Jun 2020 #13

Very good MoonlitKnight Jun 2020 #35

He got obstructed by Congress kimbutgar Jun 2020 #37

Yep MoonlitKnight Jun 2020 #41

It was written Sgent Jun 2020 #52

Autobiography. EarnestPutz Jun 2020 #66

Clemmons was the Sgent Jun 2020 #67

Ta-Nahesi Coates wrote about this in "The Atlantic" and dismissed the question of.... EarnestPutz Jun 2020 #68

It is irrational, indeed. Music Man Jun 2020 #3

Do you know exactly who tore that particular statue down? Mariana Jun 2020 #4

I Could See That As A Counter Protest ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #6

That's what I think. Mariana Jun 2020 #12

That is a blatantly dishonest portrayal of my post. jcmaine72 Jun 2020 #16

I Understand Your Reaction ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #25

Are there any 100 foot plus statues of Confederates or the Founding Father's? Polybius Jun 2020 #5

This is starting to remind me of the Talban blowing up Raine Jun 2020 #7

This. Dial H For Hero Jun 2020 #19

We do seem to be moving sarisataka Jun 2020 #20

No historical figure or culture can live up to modern sensibilities Amishman Jun 2020 #50

How to lose friends and elections 101 superpatriotman Jun 2020 #8

+1 DTomlinson Jun 2020 #61

Sheesh Grant was anti-slave even though his wife's family wasn't. jmg257 Jun 2020 #9

Grants father was anti-slavery. His father-in-law owned slaves and his bride was... brush Jun 2020 #33

Ah thanks for the correction! jmg257 Jun 2020 #38

Actually, Grant's father was an abolitionist coti Jun 2020 #40

Might be people who don't know history and thought the statue was of a Confederate. Kaleva Jun 2020 #10

More likely that some Neo-Confederates knew exactly who it was Mariana Jun 2020 #14

Oh come on. tritsofme Jun 2020 #17

Never attribute to cunning zipplewrath Jun 2020 #18

That's what I was thinking. Aristus Jun 2020 #45

That might be but they should take a few minutes to look it up on the internet Raine Jun 2020 #51

The answer is, "NO." UncleTomsEvilBrother Jun 2020 #15

Dude launched an illegal war against the Lakota after trying paternalistic assimilationism. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #21

We shouldn't forget the hanging of 39 Dakota fighters Lincoln signed off on. Kaleva Jun 2020 #23

Absolutely. I posted about it last December, but there's never a bad time to remember it. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #26

AMEN PTWB Jun 2020 #24

When held to the standards of today. Kaleva Jun 2020 #27

Yes, when held to the standards of today. PTWB Jun 2020 #30

Tear down all monuments to FDR, then? Really? Dial H For Hero Jun 2020 #34

How about Lincoln who approved the execution of 39 Dakota Freedom Fighters? Kaleva Jun 2020 #36

What about him? PTWB Jun 2020 #39

The domination of our nation by some white males is our history. Kaleva Jun 2020 #42

No one is saying we shouldn't teach Lincoln's contribution. PTWB Jun 2020 #48

How about do something substantive about the lives of oppressed people rather than symbolic crap DTomlinson Jun 2020 #57

Why not do both? PTWB Jun 2020 #63

Tear down the enormous DC monument to arguably our coti Jun 2020 #47

Haha, nice. DTomlinson Jun 2020 #58

Did enslaved people have different standards than people do today? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #49

He also helped win the Civil War and oversaw successful Reconstruction before it was rolled back. DTomlinson Jun 2020 #56

Maybe statues aren't the best way to tell the complicated history of someone's actions. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #60

You are correct. Grant didn't buy the enslaved man, did work side by side with him in the field... brush Jun 2020 #29

I agree rockfordfile Jun 2020 #31

Someone is working hard to help us lose the November election. jalan48 Jun 2020 #32

Was it Grant who banned Jews from Kansas? (Edit: it was other states) ExciteBike66 Jun 2020 #43

Yes. the General Order was rescinded after a public outcry. Aristus Jun 2020 #46

Pretty well agreed, at least with regard to black civil rights coti Jun 2020 #44

When less than half of people can name one SC justice, I doubt many even know who the statues are MichMan Jun 2020 #53

All this statue toppling has brought me around to this... 2naSalit Jun 2020 #54

No. DTomlinson Jun 2020 #59

Yes. PTWB Jun 2020 #64

Aside from the Confederate statutes, this is symbolic nonsense/an excuse for vandalism. DTomlinson Jun 2020 #55

Well maybe we should make it against the law and arrest everybody! 2naSalit Jun 2020 #62

I suppose you think we should allow statues of Columbus to stand? PTWB Jun 2020 #65

This behavior is exactly why melm00se Jun 2020 #69