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JI7

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83. The Republicans demanding everything open up don't care about Safety Measures

Sat May 16, 2020, 09:38 PM

May 2020

They aren't suggesting any new ways of doing business to make things safer.

In fact they oppose wearing masks and taking these safety measures.

There ARE businesses working on opening up in ways that would be as safe as possible for employees and customers. It's not as simple as just opening up .

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To those criticizing the re-opening of businesses and public spaces... [View all] brooklynite May 2020 OP

This describes exactly my sentiments. onecaliberal May 2020 #1

Are you therefore saying that we should remain closed indefinitely... brooklynite May 2020 #7

Post removed Post removed May 2020 #17

You don't get to choose when it is safe for me and my family. onecaliberal May 2020 #27

Yep, 100 % your decision. MichMan May 2020 #33

So long the selfishness of the money over life crowd is around that's how it will be. onecaliberal May 2020 #35

If people don't feel safe going out or working, no one is forcing them to. MichMan May 2020 #38

#34 onecaliberal May 2020 #44

I imagine money will force them to go back to work. Autumn May 2020 #67

So that means they value money too. MichMan May 2020 #69

Nonsense. That has no bearing on my comment and is irrelevant. It takes money to survive, Autumn May 2020 #74

Maybe you should have the same empathy for business owners too? MichMan May 2020 #77

You don't know that I don't have empathy for business owners. I replied to your comment Autumn May 2020 #78

Great, you do you democrattotheend May 2020 #108

Experts say the US opened up too soon JonLP24 May 2020 #111

Somehow I think Aids is different from Covid 19. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #55

An lot of right-wingers love to make that comparison, though. Mariana May 2020 #117

Looks like the answer is zero deaths then. MichMan May 2020 #12

By its own implicit parameters, your argument then denies the original shut down as a good, yes? LanternWaste May 2020 #84

"Prophesize" is spelled with an s, not a c. Tipperary May 2020 #103

Easy to say when it's not YOUR business or job on the line Calculating May 2020 #68

My employer declared bankruptcy last week from being shut down MichMan May 2020 #71

If I were governor . . . SharonClark May 2020 #2

Testing? You're paying for tests? Sukee May 2020 #9

Cheaper Hand Sanitizer Is Less Effective????? ProfessorGAC May 2020 #30

Ohhhh, someone knows their product manufacturing chemistry. Blue_true May 2020 #50

It Would Never Have No Emolients ProfessorGAC May 2020 #61

I am no expert, but I do mix serums, and lotions for my intermediates. Blue_true May 2020 #66

Most Commercial Versions... ProfessorGAC May 2020 #90

I use emulsifying wax, Olivem 1000, Cetyl Alcohol and Sunflower Wax to set Blue_true May 2020 #107

Cetyl Alcohol Is Derived ProfessorGAC May 2020 #109

You have a lot of knowledge in this area. Blue_true May 2020 #110

Organic Physical Chemistry ProfessorGAC May 2020 #112

Exactly!!!! Sukee May 2020 #114

this is at least reasonable. Not what we're doing now... Just go take your chance. onecaliberal May 2020 #10

I'm old enough to seen more people than I can stand on their death bed..... IowaGuy May 2020 #3

Bravo!!!!! Sukee May 2020 #5

The strategy is to stay alive! Life over money! Sukee May 2020 #4

Thank you onecaliberal May 2020 #15

You would choose to stay closed, and allow others to choos to open.(?) jmg257 May 2020 #26

I am all for those who want to test the waters first, because Sukee May 2020 #115

Sounds like a plan! Let em dip their toes in 1st! jmg257 May 2020 #116

I approve of opening things up slowly and seeing how they go DrToast May 2020 #6

Look to the states who are planning phased, murielm99 May 2020 #8

I've seen people here criticize the re-opening plans for NY, NJ and CT brooklynite May 2020 #11

You can't please everyone. murielm99 May 2020 #16

Big-Ups to Brooklyn! Sukee May 2020 #20

New York city's Not opening jimfields33 May 2020 #46

No, only the Finger Lakes, Mohawk Valley, and near Lake Ontario Sukee May 2020 #113

40,000 dead just in those three states. Re-opening should be John Fante May 2020 #25

Washington and Oregon are doing excellent work, too LizBeth May 2020 #45

Personally, yortsed snacilbuper May 2020 #13

Most retail is OK, if social distance is maintained etc (25%) LeftInTX May 2020 #14

Too soon - Ms. Toad May 2020 #23

I agree...I was simplistic LeftInTX May 2020 #24

The very question highlights the immorality inherent in the system. WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #18

The conditions set out in the Federal reopening guidelines, plus mandatory masks. Ms. Toad May 2020 #19

Good plan LeftInTX May 2020 #22

Except almost no state meets the criteria to go to step 1. onecaliberal May 2020 #29

Absolutely. Ms. Toad May 2020 #82

That skips step 1. Igel May 2020 #48

No it doesn't skip that phase. Ms. Toad May 2020 #81

+1 uponit7771 May 2020 #63

+1000 n/t OhioChick May 2020 #96

It pisses me off that Cooper in NC does not require masks Jersey Devil May 2020 #102

Priority is to manage the pandemic, second priority is to address the costs unblock May 2020 #21

There are 85,000 dead people who won't be coming back DBoon May 2020 #28

Did you mean this in reply to my post? unblock May 2020 #39

+1000 smirkymonkey May 2020 #73

Indeed. There's a reason we're doing worse than nearly every other country. unblock May 2020 #79

We aren't testing, tracing, or isolating, so it isn't an either-or question. Too many tblue37 May 2020 #31

Tricky business. Last night my party of 5 went to a local restaurant, no empedocles May 2020 #32

How many people do you propose to allow to suffocate to death of Covid 19 DBoon May 2020 #34

: onecaliberal May 2020 #36

Tell us, what did you have for dinner last night? brooklynite May 2020 #47

You certainly avoid answering the implicit cost benefit your entire argument is predicated on. LanternWaste May 2020 #85

We buy from places that are open. You asked about bushiness that are currently closed. Kaleva May 2020 #92

The other businesses are closed by Government order, while stories and food production are open... brooklynite May 2020 #97

100% protection isn't possible kcr May 2020 #118

You probably agree with Gov. Whitmer's plan on reopening the state of Michigan. Kaleva May 2020 #121

Everyone homesteading to survive...love it! jmg257 May 2020 #54

Most of don't want to end up living under a bridge with our families... EX500rider May 2020 #70

This is Great Question - waterwatcher123 May 2020 #37

Where will people spend the UBI money if all businesses remain shut down? MichMan May 2020 #40

Great questions DrToast May 2020 #59

It's rather convenient to shoot down the ideas of others as bad LanternWaste May 2020 #87

Your un-credited C.S.Lewis quote is incorrect! nt USALiberal May 2020 #104

Another really good question - maybe we should develop a citizen's guide to the pandemic? waterwatcher123 May 2020 #88

Im staying inside no matter what...Hubby has to work in the public but he feels.... samnsara May 2020 #41

There has to be a place for those of us in an unprotected place, in vulnerable position to not LizBeth May 2020 #42

Good questions and no easy answers Bradshaw3 May 2020 #43

Re-open with mandatory wearing of approved masks over the nose Blue_true May 2020 #49

Rev. Barber's Poor People's Campaign calls for resistance to reopening plans mokawanis May 2020 #51

Let's do a little of the back of the envelope math... Hugin May 2020 #52

Lets make it $4000 a month...tax free, more like it and worth a year off. jmg257 May 2020 #53

Of course, tax free. Hugin May 2020 #62

Thank you, Hugin. rgbecker May 2020 #72

My strategy is to push MASK WEARING. It's outrageous that the R's are pushing re-opening pnwmom May 2020 #56

I agree. But that was screwed up. EllieBC May 2020 #58

Yes, they screwed that up. But I also blame Trump. He didn't want to wear them or have pnwmom May 2020 #65

How would Obama have dealt with it? Crunchy Frog May 2020 #57

+1 uponit7771 May 2020 #64

A big time donor worried about the working class JonLP24 May 2020 #60

wearing a mask, washing my hands and trying to be responsible for others lives Demonaut May 2020 #75

Schools & day care centers. As for workers, already there are workers being give the "choice" ... Hekate May 2020 #76

I'd use Governor Cuomo's re-opening standards. ancianita May 2020 #80

The Republicans demanding everything open up don't care about Safety Measures JI7 May 2020 #83

The Pandemic Plan Tink41 May 2020 #86

TESTING. Quick, accurate testing widely available. tanyev May 2020 #89

I know people who are positively thrilled about the unemployment plus $600/week they are getting Kaleva May 2020 #91

Gov. Whitmer of Mi. has always said science will determine how and when the state opens back up Kaleva May 2020 #93

What science and data said lottery and recreational marijuana were essential? MichMan May 2020 #106

Recreational marijuana stores are closed. Kaleva May 2020 #120

It's the lack of leadership MoonlitKnight May 2020 #94

Here's what I would do spinbaby May 2020 #95

Where are you getting food during a "complete shutdown"? brooklynite May 2020 #98

there would be essential workers JI7 May 2020 #99

...then it's not a "complete shutdown" brooklynite May 2020 #101

That's why the window to get supplies spinbaby May 2020 #100

Why are you asking for this? Brainfodder May 2020 #105

Politics has infected the pandemic Steelrolled May 2020 #119

My feelings exactly and I have the same question 🤔 Raine May 2020 #122