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65. Yes, they screwed that up. But I also blame Trump. He didn't want to wear them or have

Reply to EllieBC (Reply #58)

Sat May 16, 2020, 06:33 PM

May 2020

his team wear them because he viewed them as a sign of weakness.

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To those criticizing the re-opening of businesses and public spaces... [View all] brooklynite May 2020 OP

This describes exactly my sentiments. onecaliberal May 2020 #1

Are you therefore saying that we should remain closed indefinitely... brooklynite May 2020 #7

Post removed Post removed May 2020 #17

You don't get to choose when it is safe for me and my family. onecaliberal May 2020 #27

Yep, 100 % your decision. MichMan May 2020 #33

So long the selfishness of the money over life crowd is around that's how it will be. onecaliberal May 2020 #35

If people don't feel safe going out or working, no one is forcing them to. MichMan May 2020 #38

#34 onecaliberal May 2020 #44

I imagine money will force them to go back to work. Autumn May 2020 #67

So that means they value money too. MichMan May 2020 #69

Nonsense. That has no bearing on my comment and is irrelevant. It takes money to survive, Autumn May 2020 #74

Maybe you should have the same empathy for business owners too? MichMan May 2020 #77

You don't know that I don't have empathy for business owners. I replied to your comment Autumn May 2020 #78

Great, you do you democrattotheend May 2020 #108

Experts say the US opened up too soon JonLP24 May 2020 #111

Somehow I think Aids is different from Covid 19. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #55

An lot of right-wingers love to make that comparison, though. Mariana May 2020 #117

Looks like the answer is zero deaths then. MichMan May 2020 #12

By its own implicit parameters, your argument then denies the original shut down as a good, yes? LanternWaste May 2020 #84

"Prophesize" is spelled with an s, not a c. Tipperary May 2020 #103

Easy to say when it's not YOUR business or job on the line Calculating May 2020 #68

My employer declared bankruptcy last week from being shut down MichMan May 2020 #71

If I were governor . . . SharonClark May 2020 #2

Testing? You're paying for tests? Sukee May 2020 #9

Cheaper Hand Sanitizer Is Less Effective????? ProfessorGAC May 2020 #30

Ohhhh, someone knows their product manufacturing chemistry. Blue_true May 2020 #50

It Would Never Have No Emolients ProfessorGAC May 2020 #61

I am no expert, but I do mix serums, and lotions for my intermediates. Blue_true May 2020 #66

Most Commercial Versions... ProfessorGAC May 2020 #90

I use emulsifying wax, Olivem 1000, Cetyl Alcohol and Sunflower Wax to set Blue_true May 2020 #107

Cetyl Alcohol Is Derived ProfessorGAC May 2020 #109

You have a lot of knowledge in this area. Blue_true May 2020 #110

Organic Physical Chemistry ProfessorGAC May 2020 #112

Exactly!!!! Sukee May 2020 #114

this is at least reasonable. Not what we're doing now... Just go take your chance. onecaliberal May 2020 #10

I'm old enough to seen more people than I can stand on their death bed..... IowaGuy May 2020 #3

Bravo!!!!! Sukee May 2020 #5

The strategy is to stay alive! Life over money! Sukee May 2020 #4

Thank you onecaliberal May 2020 #15

You would choose to stay closed, and allow others to choos to open.(?) jmg257 May 2020 #26

I am all for those who want to test the waters first, because Sukee May 2020 #115

Sounds like a plan! Let em dip their toes in 1st! jmg257 May 2020 #116

I approve of opening things up slowly and seeing how they go DrToast May 2020 #6

Look to the states who are planning phased, murielm99 May 2020 #8

I've seen people here criticize the re-opening plans for NY, NJ and CT brooklynite May 2020 #11

You can't please everyone. murielm99 May 2020 #16

Big-Ups to Brooklyn! Sukee May 2020 #20

New York city's Not opening jimfields33 May 2020 #46

No, only the Finger Lakes, Mohawk Valley, and near Lake Ontario Sukee May 2020 #113

40,000 dead just in those three states. Re-opening should be John Fante May 2020 #25

Washington and Oregon are doing excellent work, too LizBeth May 2020 #45

Personally, yortsed snacilbuper May 2020 #13

Most retail is OK, if social distance is maintained etc (25%) LeftInTX May 2020 #14

Too soon - Ms. Toad May 2020 #23

I agree...I was simplistic LeftInTX May 2020 #24

The very question highlights the immorality inherent in the system. WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #18

The conditions set out in the Federal reopening guidelines, plus mandatory masks. Ms. Toad May 2020 #19

Good plan LeftInTX May 2020 #22

Except almost no state meets the criteria to go to step 1. onecaliberal May 2020 #29

Absolutely. Ms. Toad May 2020 #82

That skips step 1. Igel May 2020 #48

No it doesn't skip that phase. Ms. Toad May 2020 #81

+1 uponit7771 May 2020 #63

+1000 n/t OhioChick May 2020 #96

It pisses me off that Cooper in NC does not require masks Jersey Devil May 2020 #102

Priority is to manage the pandemic, second priority is to address the costs unblock May 2020 #21

There are 85,000 dead people who won't be coming back DBoon May 2020 #28

Did you mean this in reply to my post? unblock May 2020 #39

+1000 smirkymonkey May 2020 #73

Indeed. There's a reason we're doing worse than nearly every other country. unblock May 2020 #79

We aren't testing, tracing, or isolating, so it isn't an either-or question. Too many tblue37 May 2020 #31

Tricky business. Last night my party of 5 went to a local restaurant, no empedocles May 2020 #32

How many people do you propose to allow to suffocate to death of Covid 19 DBoon May 2020 #34

: onecaliberal May 2020 #36

Tell us, what did you have for dinner last night? brooklynite May 2020 #47

You certainly avoid answering the implicit cost benefit your entire argument is predicated on. LanternWaste May 2020 #85

We buy from places that are open. You asked about bushiness that are currently closed. Kaleva May 2020 #92

The other businesses are closed by Government order, while stories and food production are open... brooklynite May 2020 #97

100% protection isn't possible kcr May 2020 #118

You probably agree with Gov. Whitmer's plan on reopening the state of Michigan. Kaleva May 2020 #121

Everyone homesteading to survive...love it! jmg257 May 2020 #54

Most of don't want to end up living under a bridge with our families... EX500rider May 2020 #70

This is Great Question - waterwatcher123 May 2020 #37

Where will people spend the UBI money if all businesses remain shut down? MichMan May 2020 #40

Great questions DrToast May 2020 #59

It's rather convenient to shoot down the ideas of others as bad LanternWaste May 2020 #87

Your un-credited C.S.Lewis quote is incorrect! nt USALiberal May 2020 #104

Another really good question - maybe we should develop a citizen's guide to the pandemic? waterwatcher123 May 2020 #88

Im staying inside no matter what...Hubby has to work in the public but he feels.... samnsara May 2020 #41

There has to be a place for those of us in an unprotected place, in vulnerable position to not LizBeth May 2020 #42

Good questions and no easy answers Bradshaw3 May 2020 #43

Re-open with mandatory wearing of approved masks over the nose Blue_true May 2020 #49

Rev. Barber's Poor People's Campaign calls for resistance to reopening plans mokawanis May 2020 #51

Let's do a little of the back of the envelope math... Hugin May 2020 #52

Lets make it $4000 a month...tax free, more like it and worth a year off. jmg257 May 2020 #53

Of course, tax free. Hugin May 2020 #62

Thank you, Hugin. rgbecker May 2020 #72

My strategy is to push MASK WEARING. It's outrageous that the R's are pushing re-opening pnwmom May 2020 #56

I agree. But that was screwed up. EllieBC May 2020 #58

Yes, they screwed that up. But I also blame Trump. He didn't want to wear them or have pnwmom May 2020 #65

How would Obama have dealt with it? Crunchy Frog May 2020 #57

+1 uponit7771 May 2020 #64

A big time donor worried about the working class JonLP24 May 2020 #60

wearing a mask, washing my hands and trying to be responsible for others lives Demonaut May 2020 #75

Schools & day care centers. As for workers, already there are workers being give the "choice" ... Hekate May 2020 #76

I'd use Governor Cuomo's re-opening standards. ancianita May 2020 #80

The Republicans demanding everything open up don't care about Safety Measures JI7 May 2020 #83

The Pandemic Plan Tink41 May 2020 #86

TESTING. Quick, accurate testing widely available. tanyev May 2020 #89

I know people who are positively thrilled about the unemployment plus $600/week they are getting Kaleva May 2020 #91

Gov. Whitmer of Mi. has always said science will determine how and when the state opens back up Kaleva May 2020 #93

What science and data said lottery and recreational marijuana were essential? MichMan May 2020 #106

Recreational marijuana stores are closed. Kaleva May 2020 #120

It's the lack of leadership MoonlitKnight May 2020 #94

Here's what I would do spinbaby May 2020 #95

Where are you getting food during a "complete shutdown"? brooklynite May 2020 #98

there would be essential workers JI7 May 2020 #99

...then it's not a "complete shutdown" brooklynite May 2020 #101

That's why the window to get supplies spinbaby May 2020 #100

Why are you asking for this? Brainfodder May 2020 #105

Politics has infected the pandemic Steelrolled May 2020 #119

My feelings exactly and I have the same question 🤔 Raine May 2020 #122