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not_the_one

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12. Don't you have to be charged and judged to verdict to be eligible for a pardon?

Sun May 10, 2020, 12:51 PM

May 2020

Doesn't there have to be a guilty verdict to BE pardoned?

Don't try to touch another one of the guilty pieces of shit until January 21st, then turn them over to NEW Attorney General Kamala Harris, with the guidance of "THROW THE BOOK AT THEM".

Just saying "this person can never be accused or prosecuted for any possible crime" doesn't seem legal. Of course, legality has never stopped them yet...

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Simple question for our lawyers here, when tRUMP loses in Nov. [View all] bluestarone May 2020 OP

Yes. Why would he, who do you think is going to prosecute them (and for what specific offense)? n/t PoliticAverse May 2020 #1

Well not being a lawyer myself, i would think there is bluestarone May 2020 #5

I'm not a lawyer, but I assume he could. DavidDvorkin May 2020 #2

Doesn't protect them from state charges, and pardons are admission of guilt and need convicted? Brainfodder May 2020 #3

No. former9thward May 2020 #35

Yes elleng May 2020 #4

TKS! bluestarone May 2020 #6

RIGHT! elleng May 2020 #13

Yes, but only for federal crimes. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #7

So if they accept a pardon can THAT be used against them bluestarone May 2020 #8

Depends on what they are. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #11

Not clear you're admitting the crime, but yes, you could be compelled to testify unblock May 2020 #15

Yes. It depends entirely on what state law you are being charged with. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #17

Yes he can. But we will have to save the economy and lives before we can even consider Demsrule86 May 2020 #9

Of course he can snowybirdie May 2020 #10

Bush pardoning six Iran Contra exboyfil May 2020 #30

Don't you have to be charged and judged to verdict to be eligible for a pardon? not_the_one May 2020 #12

I do not believe so bluestarone May 2020 #14

You don't literally plead guilty, as one would in court. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #20

Gotcha TY bluestarone May 2020 #23

Ford issued a blanket, unconditional pardon of Nixon. Tanuki May 2020 #16

No. Ford pardoned Nixon for all crimes he might have committed as President. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #18

No. For example President Carter pardoned all Vietnam draft evaders... PoliticAverse May 2020 #27

Apart from the pardons, I worry about what it is going to take to pry him out of OUR HOUSE niyad May 2020 #19

All it will take is a few federal marshals. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #21

I can see his supporters, with their phallic substitutes, trying to stop the marshals. niyad May 2020 #28

When he TRULY loses i see no problem then bluestarone May 2020 #22

Yes Cicada May 2020 #24

We need a Presidential Powers Amendment to fix this. dawg May 2020 #25

I personally see no fucking good reason for this BLANKET PARDON BULLSHIT myself, BUT bluestarone May 2020 #29

All pardons should have to go through a committee of randomly assigned judges. Jake Stern May 2020 #37

I don't think the President should be involved with this sort of thing at all. dawg May 2020 #39

IF Trump loses. Get ready for the biggest smear campaign against Joe Biden in the history of US. Doodley May 2020 #26

He will pardon everyone and resign two days before the end of term, Pence will then pardon him. PuppyBismark May 2020 #31

I agree which means for this plan to work, turmp cannot repleace Pence on the ticket Gothmog May 2020 #33

Actually i wonder IF HE bluestarone May 2020 #34

I don't think so Jake Stern May 2020 #40

He could but how would that benefit Trump as he leaves office? Kablooie May 2020 #32

Vengeance and spite Jake Stern May 2020 #38

Glenn Kirshner has a plan for that. gibraltar72 May 2020 #36