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In reply to the discussion: I'd like someone to tell me how it is possible to be a liberal and not support striking teachers. [View all]Response to Meg_Griffin_1 (Reply #80)
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I'd like someone to tell me how it is possible to be a liberal and not support striking teachers. [View all]
Stinky The Clown
Sep 2012
OP
"they were joined by many of the very people who are most inconvenienced by their walkout"
Hissyspit
Sep 2012
#134
I think you are right that part of human nature says "I have it tough, so should they". BUT
pampango
Sep 2012
#43
This is not the 1st time the economy has dipped or fallen. Teachers are society's scapegoats today.
MichiganVote
Sep 2012
#100
Even with Government jobs, we don't have a right to work public servants like slaves.
Zalatix
Sep 2012
#12
Good work NEVER comes cheap. People keep trying to circumvent that and it never works.
Zalatix
Sep 2012
#187
No, but they're worth WELL over $76K and teachers around here don't make nearly that much.
Zalatix
Sep 2012
#232
The contract that they will eventually accept won't affect privatized schools in any way.
lumberjack_jeff
Sep 2012
#179
So long as teachers aren't striking, it's being run properly? Does it matter if kids are learning?
lumberjack_jeff
Sep 2012
#223
Ah, not to argue over this as I agree as far as your list of adults goes, more or less.
NYC_SKP
Sep 2012
#213
If you think that the policy and conduct of your school district is none of your business...
lumberjack_jeff
Sep 2012
#216
They called the strike because they wanted improvements in working conditions.
Zalatix
Sep 2012
#255
I don't know. Maybe if you have three kids and have nowhere else to send them to school ...
GodlessBiker
Sep 2012
#2
I grew up in the desert. Arizona, to be specific. I live in Portland, OR now, but have no clue...
boppers
Sep 2012
#139
Every time one crab tries to climb out of the bucket, the other crabs drag him back down. n/t
backscatter712
Sep 2012
#152
Sorry, mountain boy myself. When you go crabbing you just bring a pail and as
Egalitarian Thug
Sep 2012
#159
Oh, forget it. You win. All liberals are equally politically sophisticated.
GodlessBiker
Sep 2012
#121
People understand nuance, but at some point you do have to pick a side usually.
Hissyspit
Sep 2012
#130
How is "not informed" a bad *argument* for why people might be against the strike?
boppers
Sep 2012
#140
You are right about the need to learn about the interconncetedness of things. When I...
YvonneCa
Sep 2012
#143
I'd like somebody to tell me how it is possible to say that liberals should ALWAYS do anything.
renie408
Sep 2012
#5
Simple. You can't. Now, you can certainly be a Democrat and be strongly anti-worker, just look
Egalitarian Thug
Sep 2012
#8
There are plenty of profits when the public sphere is privatized, which is what's been happening
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#28
We agree that privatized schools are a problem. But that's not the topic.
lumberjack_jeff
Sep 2012
#55
16% is a bargaining position that carries with it, e.g. higher employee payments for health benefits
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#57
Okay, fine. Point out the teacher analagous to Bill Gates in the CPS system.
lumberjack_jeff
Sep 2012
#65
There isn't likely to be any teacher analogous to bill gates. but the 'average" *is* right-skewed
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#77
i'm not sure why you think that negates my example. In my example on the misleading nature
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#202
Your contention is that an average figure doesn't give an accurate idea of the pay of each teacher.
lumberjack_jeff
Sep 2012
#245
where's that, jeff? btw, of course you know that the rahm gang passed a law that limited
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#246
what don't you understand about 'there is no fucking 16% raise.' that's a bargaining position, and
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#251
if all they wanted was a raise, they could have got it on day one. because rahm came in with
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#253
Saying 'i support the chicago teachers strike' and 'chicago teachers make too much money' =
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#256
Senate Bill 7 was the work of Jonah Edelman, his corporate reform group Stand for Children, and
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#258
you realize that the atlanta cheating scandal is fallout from the move to high-stakes testing,
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#37
That is a local issue and has nothing whatsoever to do with this. Yes, people have let their school
Egalitarian Thug
Sep 2012
#197
I don't think there is a single person that contends that the schools are not screwed up and that
Egalitarian Thug
Sep 2012
#17
I will take you at your word that you don't want a flame war, and will answer you in kind:
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#18
I didn't mean to imply that 'you' were pretending...I just think Karen Lewis has been disengenuous
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#21
All I know about the CPS is a handful of teachers I've known over the years...
Hassin Bin Sober
Sep 2012
#41
I have no complaint with the compensation, mind you. But when you add in the 5:45
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#45
What you are implying is illegal and undemocratic. A union is obliged to follow the laws
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#51
You should look for a teacher. They might be able to help you understand statistics.
jeff47
Sep 2012
#92
Do CPAs have a 3-5 year probationary period before they are deemed "real" CPAs with rights?
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#30
When you've told someone to 'shut up' it indicates that you have no argument.
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#83
Sorry, they are asking for more assistant teachers s so that there are more teachers/assistants/....
Walk away
Sep 2012
#257
I support all striking workers: it's this kind of half-arsed attitude towards unions that weakens
MatthewStLouis
Sep 2012
#33
I think some UAW contracts in the 70s were out of control. So sometimes the union might be wrong.
Logical
Sep 2012
#47
Labor cost is less than 10% of a vehicle. does that sound out of control to you?
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#78
To the argument of the CPA and MD and other professionals who lose licenses...
cr8tvlde
Sep 2012
#48
Lackluster would be having only a single, simplistic dimension to your membership in society.
eomer
Sep 2012
#265
In order to answer your question, I think we would need a solid working
coalition_unwilling
Sep 2012
#60
No shit. I'm appalled at how people who disagreed with the OP were treated.
great white snark
Sep 2012
#107
Omaha Steve got dozens of union members to sign up when WI was happening.
Starry Messenger
Sep 2012
#117
Awesome! You know to the dollar what your kids are worth. Very nice, very nice.
DisgustipatedinCA
Sep 2012
#86
I did. You replied to a poster talking about their children's income, but made a remark about worth.
boppers
Sep 2012
#173
We can't pay our teachers more, but we can pay for drone strikes and tax breaks for the rich???
Zalatix
Sep 2012
#194
What I find especially...interesting...is why objectivity like yours is castigated.
randome
Sep 2012
#97
what is labeled a liberal here in most of teh world would be label far left fringe
rdking647
Sep 2012
#169
does being a liberal mean you have to support every single so called liberal idea?
rdking647
Sep 2012
#94
What is a Liberal to you? I am a Democrat and Democrats traditionally support the
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#101
If you supported the teachers in Wisconsin, it doesn't make any sense that you wouldn't support
proud2BlibKansan
Sep 2012
#125
How is it possible to be a Democrat and not support a Democratic Mayor? (nt)
Nye Bevan
Sep 2012
#108
I support unions in general, but that doesn't mean liberals have to support 100%
Proles
Sep 2012
#124
Well you're right, I should have read the question more closely. I thought it said unions.
Proles
Sep 2012
#163
"of course i support unions...teachers...just not in *this* case....or any other case that comes
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#288
It's possible to be a liberal and not support lots of things. To be liberal is to be part of a herd
cherokeeprogressive
Sep 2012
#185
Had you made this comment originally, I'd have taken your meaning.
DemocratsForProgress
Sep 2012
#277
You aren't talking to liberals. You aren't even talking to "centrists."
woo me with science
Sep 2012
#209
You asked a very specific question, and you got a very specific answer.
lumberjack_jeff
Sep 2012
#234