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Tue Sep 11, 2012, 12:02 PM Sep 2012

Should Obama & Dems back striking Chicago teachers or corporate ed "reformers" & Rahm? [View all]

Top Democrats have tried to have it both ways on education: give what they want to the corporate "reformers" who want to prove public schools are failing with endless standardized testing as an excuse to privatize public schools so they can skim our tax dollars as profits on the one hand, and keep teachers in the tent by funding ed at a higher level than republicans would and even budgeting money to keep teachers from being fired on the other.

But they can't have it both ways forever. They are either going to screw teachers and students to get that corporate cash, or side with those who signed up for a job with no expectation of getting rich, but just wanted to teach kids and be able to support their family. The latter also happen to be loyal voters and foot soldiers for the Democratic Party.

Education has broader implications too: it is part of the trend of merging corporation and state, with the corporate governance model of one dollar one vote instead of one person one vote dominating.

That the president's former chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, is a point man for the privatizers in Chicago, shows the cancer on the Democratic Party of trying to be the OTHER corporate party instead of a real alternative to the GOP.

I want a real alternative, and it's time for Democrats in office and candidates to decide if they are going to provide it.

Which side should Obama and Democratic politicians take?

9 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Side with the corporate education reformers because they are right
1 (11%)
Side with corporate education reformers because Dems can't survive to do other good things without their money
0 (0%)
Side with teachers & students
8 (89%)
OTHER (please explain)
0 (0%)
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None of the above. They should let Chicago politicians & the teacher's union work this out. jillan Sep 2012 #1
it's an issue with national repercussions, and even if teachers stick to local resources... yurbud Sep 2012 #5
It's A Union Issue... KharmaTrain Sep 2012 #17
Absolutely. randome Sep 2012 #25
He'll have to decide what will do him the most good politically rocktivity Sep 2012 #2
I disagree standingtall Sep 2012 #22
I posted a shorter version as a White House petition: yurbud Sep 2012 #3
Well tama Sep 2012 #4
the real challenge won't come until they can no longer pretend the corpse of the GOP is twisting yurbud Sep 2012 #6
Remember Oaxaca tama Sep 2012 #9
I hope you're right. yurbud Sep 2012 #26
I think Obama should not be commenting on this. However, I feel Arne Duncan mfcorey1 Sep 2012 #7
How about tama Sep 2012 #11
I agree, but don't know how one "fairly evaluates" public school teachers. cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #14
If only there was such a thing as a 'generic teacher's ... YvonneCa Sep 2012 #15
And there was Rahm during the DNC looking awe stricken at the speakers... cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #8
People should always come before profit. porphyrian Sep 2012 #10
can you imagine if we applied the same kind of "accountability" to Wall Street as we do public yurbud Sep 2012 #12
Ha! I'd love that - profits tied to their "report card..." n/t porphyrian Sep 2012 #13
a) which people? lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #16
All people, all profit. porphyrian Sep 2012 #19
I work in the largest Illinois elementary district outside chicago Gabi Hayes Sep 2012 #18
We are still the majority, and in an information age, power can't be consolidated yurbud Sep 2012 #20
This administration and the president have *already* taken their stand, by continuing & intensifying HiPointDem Sep 2012 #21
it's worth drawing attention to the fact that it's different than what Democratic voters want yurbud Sep 2012 #23
agreed. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #24
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