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In reply to the discussion: Hackers may have gained 'almost total control' of an election server in Georgia, report says [View all]csziggy
(34,120 posts)49. Not necessarily! Back in the 1980's an election was completely screwed up
With lever machines. Long story.
Leon County, Florida had had the same supervisor of elections for twenty or thirty years. In 1984 just minutes before the deadline for candidates to register she announced her retirement. The only candidate to register was her son, who had been working in her office for years. While some tried to run as write ins, with the lever system it was not easy and the son won. In the first major election after he took office, the machines were not properly set up. It was hard to tell which lever was for which candidate and many complained that they were not sure if they voted for their choice. The ensuing court case set the precedent in Florida that an election could not be re-done (which was important in 2000).
ELECTIONS CHIEF GETS JOB BACK
SUN-SENTINEL
May 29, 1987
TALLAHASSEE -- The Senate voted Thursday to reinstate Leon County Elections Supervisor Jan Pietrzyk, who was ousted by former Gov. Bob Graham over a botched primary election last year.
The 36-3 vote in favor of reinstatement was in direct opposition to a special master's recommendation that Pietrzyk be removed from office because he was responsible for widespread voting problems in Leon County Sept. 2, 1986.
Malfunctioning voting machines caused the entire election to be challenged in court. An undetermined number of people were unable to vote at all. Some people voted for one candidate, and the machine registered the vote for another, while other voters were given incorrect instructions by poll workers.
Senators said they felt it was a poor precedent to remove an elected official just because the official made errors in judgment. The voters put Pietrzyk in office, and they should be the ones to judge his performance, lawmakers said.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1987-05-29-8702180627-story.html
SUN-SENTINEL
May 29, 1987
TALLAHASSEE -- The Senate voted Thursday to reinstate Leon County Elections Supervisor Jan Pietrzyk, who was ousted by former Gov. Bob Graham over a botched primary election last year.
The 36-3 vote in favor of reinstatement was in direct opposition to a special master's recommendation that Pietrzyk be removed from office because he was responsible for widespread voting problems in Leon County Sept. 2, 1986.
Malfunctioning voting machines caused the entire election to be challenged in court. An undetermined number of people were unable to vote at all. Some people voted for one candidate, and the machine registered the vote for another, while other voters were given incorrect instructions by poll workers.
Senators said they felt it was a poor precedent to remove an elected official just because the official made errors in judgment. The voters put Pietrzyk in office, and they should be the ones to judge his performance, lawmakers said.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1987-05-29-8702180627-story.html
After a bid as county commissioner in 1986 {Ion} Sancho took courses in election machine management and became certified in their use. In November 1988, Sancho was elected to his first term as the Supervisor of Elections for Leon County, Florida. He ran and was re-elected in 1992, 1996, 2000, and 2004, serving his fifth term as of January 2, 2005. He was unopposed in each election since 1992.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Sancho#Supervisor_of_Elections
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Sancho#Supervisor_of_Elections
The saga went on when it turned out that the opti-scan system that Sancho introduced to the county turned out to be hackable (see the HBO documentary Hacking America).
Sancho retired a couple of years ago, but he endorsed a man who had worked in his office for years and the elections since have been without problems.
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