What's worse is that this isn't new, it's not something that suddenly sprang up with Trump (Reply #13)

In the discussion thread: Excellent post by Heather Cox Richardson: Chuck Todd, Turley on impeachment, media / disinformation [View all]

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Fri Dec 27, 2019, 10:18 AM

JHB (32,456 posts)

13. What's worse is that this isn't new, it's not something that suddenly sprang up with Trump

We can easily date it back to the 50s and Buckley's crowd, but if you limit it to this brand of blatant brazenness, of blowing off norms and consensus, of just putting out BS and simply ignoring the fuss, it's been Republican standard operating procedure for a quarter century.

Chuck, and nearly all of his colleagues, have ignored this for the entirety of their careers.

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57 replies	Author	Time	Post
Excellent post by Heather Cox Richardson: Chuck Todd, Turley on impeachment, media / disinformation [View all]	erronis	Dec 2019	OP
Wow Chuck Todd	underpants	Dec 2019	#1
It only took three Republican guests for chucktodd to figure it out?	gratuitous	Dec 2019	#4
I call it cement brained.	lunatica	Dec 2019	#51
Todd was chosen to director for the very reason that he can be easily manipulated.	olegramps	Dec 2019	#9
So agree,	Wellstone ruled	Dec 2019	#38
Wow!	True Blue American	Dec 2019	#19
Great post. The quote from William F'ing Buckley is telling	underpants	Dec 2019	#2
Buckley isn't actually quoted...	JHB	Dec 2019	#11
If there were truth in packaging...	JohnQFunk	Dec 2019	#20
Karl Rove said it in front of a microphone	Perseus	Dec 2019	#36
Todd is one of the worst offenders but the disease is media wide	Takket	Dec 2019	#3
I read somewhere recently (a critique of an NYT politics reporter IIRC)	maxsolomon	Dec 2019	#30
The assault on reason is not new	malaise	Dec 2019	#5
This.	MontanaMama	Dec 2019	#14
All the best for the coming decade	malaise	Dec 2019	#21
And to you and yours, malaise.	MontanaMama	Dec 2019	#24
The Repugs get a lot from the Old Church...	rickyhall	Dec 2019	#27
I was even longer but the Renaissance was an important	malaise	Dec 2019	#42
It took well over a year into Trump's presidency for the media to call a lie a lie.	madaboutharry	Dec 2019	#6
Yeah, but at least Mulvaney spoke some truth. I hear he's on his way out....	erronis	Dec 2019	#22
Yes, Trump is not the anomaly but the essence of Conservatism	bucolic_frolic	Dec 2019	#7
I think * is a Con Man who's hijacked Conservatism and the GOP.	maxsolomon	Dec 2019	#33
Recommending the OP. Excellent. Been known to us a long time, but well stated & researched. . . . nt	Bernardo de La Paz	Dec 2019	#8
Thanks for posting	PatSeg	Dec 2019	#10
If media figures like Todd are going to call these people out, their outlets	Raven	Dec 2019	#12
Less Republicans using the media as a political ad to spew propaganda	TheRealNorth	Dec 2019	#39
What's worse is that this isn't new, it's not something that suddenly sprang up with Trump	JHB	Dec 2019	#13
K&R and Thanks!	B Stieg	Dec 2019	#15
11 Warning Signs of Gaslighting	billh58	Dec 2019	#16
Thanks for that. I've read 'gaslighting' and thought I understood it. This gives clarity.	erronis	Dec 2019	#23
+1,	uponit7771	Dec 2019	#37
That's why Chuck shoulda finished college and J-school.	Kid Berwyn	Dec 2019	#17
Chuck Todd has, to me, always been a bit suspect and more than a bit of a disappointment.	PWPippinesq	Dec 2019	#18
In my "game" of "if I ran MSNBC," he'd be the first one replaced.	calimary	Dec 2019	#49
I agree.	PWPippinesq	Dec 2019	#50
Agreed about Nicolle Wallace. Her show has kinda grown on me.	calimary	Dec 2019	#53
Billionaires Own And Control Most Of The Media	DanieRains	Dec 2019	#25
Trump Republicans are using the media to spread propaganda.	Fullduplexxx	Dec 2019	#26
this pretty much sums up the toll it's taking on so many folks out there....	FM123	Dec 2019	#28
This is what scares me the most in 2020	TheRealNorth	Dec 2019	#40
Yes, this battle fatigue is real.	FM123	Dec 2019	#41
It is, and we have to recognize that that's part of what they want. And get tough.	coti	Dec 2019	#52
one can only hope.	barbtries	Dec 2019	#29
That quote has been attributed to Rove - a bit belatedly	erronis	Dec 2019	#34
I must have read the interview whenever it came out.	barbtries	Dec 2019	#35
Yep. Rove was also the one whose preferred battle strategy was	calimary	Dec 2019	#48
I hold out no hope that Todd will stop giving the Nazis a platform	AllyCat	Dec 2019	#31
Morning Joe was chummy with Trump through May 2016...	MartyTheGreek	Dec 2019	#32
media completely misses trump parading limbaugh to intimidate senators with notable timing, while	certainot	Dec 2019	#44
I like how you covered that...	MartyTheGreek	Dec 2019	#54
i hope you're right. democracy needs all the help it can get. the iran contra rewrite and	certainot	Dec 2019	#55
Good luck with that.	gilligan	Dec 2019	#43
Recommended.	Kurt V.	Dec 2019	#45
Reagan And Bush Got Away With Iran-Contra	DallasNE	Dec 2019	#46
Great post	Joinfortmill	Dec 2019	#47
Kicked	ooky	Dec 2019	#56
Thanks. I now get her posts in my inbox daily.	erronis	Dec 2019	#57

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