People who say "not my president" (Reply #55)

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Fri Dec 20, 2019, 04:58 PM

The Mouth (2,631 posts)

55. People who say "not my president"

have a harder time establishing credibility with the other side.

I saw people saying that about GWB, and about Obama and lots of people saying it about Trump right from the beginning.

Right or left, if you have already stated you hate someone and regard them as illegitimate, your subsequent opinions about them and attacks on them are suspect and subject to a much higher standard of proof from the neutral or middle ground.

We had Tea Party idiots question Obama's citizenship (and, to be fair, people who don't understand the Constitution saying Trump was illegitimate because he only won the EC ),who the hell on the other side is going to pay any attention to what such people subsequently accuse the President who they regard as illegitimate of?

As much as I dislike Drumpf, it is utterly true that MANY on our side have looked for any possible way to get him out of the presidency since the night of the election results.

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72 replies	Author	Time	Post
To all those fawning over the Christianity Today article [View all]	stopbush	Dec 2019	OP
That also lends more credibility	Bettie	Dec 2019	#1
Yes. CT needs to first establish its anti-D cred with its readers. It does that by lying.	stopbush	Dec 2019	#5
Yep. This isn't "fawning over" the op ed.	GoCubsGo	Dec 2019	#8
I have zero expectation of truth in anything	Bettie	Dec 2019	#14
I imagine there are some Ds who read CT. Are they sitting at home agreeing that	stopbush	Dec 2019	#11
Meh	Cosmocat	Dec 2019	#34
I grew up among Evangelicals. I was told every day to love them.	Girard442	Dec 2019	#46
They're not starting to turn, they got their judges and now they're done with him. IT's not like	uponit7771	Dec 2019	#62
It doesn't bother me at all	StarfishSaver	Dec 2019	#2
See my reply #5.	stopbush	Dec 2019	#6
Eh, the last sentence is nonsense	ScratchCat	Dec 2019	#3
Totally agree with your comment on people	wnylib	Dec 2019	#47
Exactly 100% out for all birthers	grantcart	Dec 2019	#49
People who say "not my president"	The Mouth	Dec 2019	#55
His win was the result of a coordinated foreign attack	Qutzupalotl	Dec 2019	#65
Of course the orange abomination released his usual tweet attack on the magazine	captain queeg	Dec 2019	#4
Indeed. Life is generally unfair to billionaires. The rest of us need to have pity	stopbush	Dec 2019	#9
Excellent.	tavernier	Dec 2019	#42
Right. And now that they got their judges for the next 30 years	question everything	Dec 2019	#7
But if we can get Supremes appointed,	wnylib	Dec 2019	#50
You know, Trump had it out for Obama for YEARS before we	maxsolomon	Dec 2019	#10
They were out against Bill long before the	wnylib	Dec 2019	#54
Yep, they have no sympathy here	treestar	Dec 2019	#60
Oh, I noticed it. I always notice gratuitous insults aimed at me.	Hortensis	Dec 2019	#12
They want Pence in Office	JustAnotherGen	Dec 2019	#13
Pence is an evangelical's dream.	redstatebluegirl	Dec 2019	#33
I think you may have something there.	tavernier	Dec 2019	#43
And Then?	ProfessorGAC	Dec 2019	#63
Because from day one he was guilty of violating the emoluments law	Fullduplexxx	Dec 2019	#15
It was a courageous move on the part of CT	Mme. Defarge	Dec 2019	#16
I, personally, do not trust the motives...	dchill	Dec 2019	#52
You are probably right about the Pence angle.	wnylib	Dec 2019	#56
I won't even waste my fucking time . . . But, call me a "fawner." I'll cop to it.	NBachers	Dec 2019	#17
I've "had it out for him"	Mr.Bill	Dec 2019	#18
I was hardly fawning earlier	Vogon_Glory	Dec 2019	#19
So what if Democrats have had it out for him from day one	standingtall	Dec 2019	#20
I had it out for him before day one.	panader0	Dec 2019	#32
Exactly	ChazInAz	Dec 2019	#35
+1,000 n/t	MarcA	Dec 2019	#58
"Cops and prosecutors have had it out for criminals from day one	FiveGoodMen	Dec 2019	#21
Talking out of both sides of their christian mouths.	ancianita	Dec 2019	#22
I have pointed out that egregious lie on numerous sites today.	Pacifist Patriot	Dec 2019	#23
Yep, that pissed me off when I read it.	bitterross	Dec 2019	#24
The point here is that	zentrum	Dec 2019	#25
This is enough for me...	Chakaconcarne	Dec 2019	#26
I'm glad they said it. It shows they are genuinely trying to deprogram the cult	Azathoth	Dec 2019	#27
Remember how they came down on Republicans	PoindexterOglethorpe	Dec 2019	#28
This message was self-deleted by its author	InAbLuEsTaTe	Dec 2019	#29
Wrong forum.	nolabear	Dec 2019	#31
Accept the help. Just take it. It doesn't matter.	nolabear	Dec 2019	#30
For some reason, people like to break up Repub circular firing squads	Kaleva	Dec 2019	#37
I'll take the help where we can get it.	RelativelyJones	Dec 2019	#36
My Thought When First Reading	DallasNE	Dec 2019	#38
I am just happy they are turning on Trump.	Gore1FL	Dec 2019	#39
I can't imagine anyone at DU "fawning" over	wnylib	Dec 2019	#40
I thought the rethugs made Trump's side of the story	scarytomcat	Dec 2019	#41
My tweet in response to this nonsense that Dems had it in for Trump	meow2u3	Dec 2019	#44
Aside from the last sentence, what about it is untrue?	Ms. Toad	Dec 2019	#45
Not only that but those sentences that we object to will only increase the impact to	grantcart	Dec 2019	#48
Like most Christians I know,	Mickju	Dec 2019	#51
If I hear that lie about how he didn't get a chance to defend himself	ooky	Dec 2019	#53
Well, if it established credibility for the main point of the article, then...	zaj	Dec 2019	#57
But but but....	onecaliberal	Dec 2019	#59
We can't grasp at crumbs...from this rag or	live love laugh	Dec 2019	#61
Fake Christians are still our enemy.	roamer65	Dec 2019	#64
They are real Christians	FiveGoodMen	Dec 2019	#71
K&R	UTUSN	Dec 2019	#66
He's damaging their brand.	herding cats	Dec 2019	#67
Evangelicals favored 45 because they like his "pro-life" and "pro-religious freedom" views ...	eppur_se_muova	Dec 2019	#68
yeah i saw that too	bucolic_frolic	Dec 2019	#69
I can't speak for other Democrats	radical noodle	Dec 2019	#70
I have had it out for trump* before day one	MyNameGoesHere	Dec 2019	#72

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