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StarfishSaver

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53. The "what" is not that Pelosi's trying to get them to agree to anything in particular
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 02:02 PM
Dec 2019

since she's surely aware they can change the rules at any time.

But she is forcing them to actually come up with some rules, in public now rather than play around and make up rules as they go along later. They'll have to either put forward some rules now that the public can see and hear and there'll be a lot of public scrutiny of them or get blamed for holding up the process. And if come up with rules now and later change them, that will also be very public and obvious. I think it will be harder (not impossible, but not as easy) to change them once agreed to since they'd have to convince the Romneys and Murkowskis to agree to a revision, which won't be a breeze.

I think their plan was to play hide the ball, get the Articles and then make things up as they went along. Pelosi called the vote.

Good OP, however, we should leave the 'gangster' stuff on trump. empedocles Dec 2019 #1
+1. "Gangster" or "gangsta" is a positive only in a perverse universe. Best not to go there. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2019 #7
The only thing worse of course is Stein voters particularly those who voted for her or gasp maybe Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #20
I agree. mgardener Dec 2019 #37
And if the Senate changes their rule on this? intrepidity Dec 2019 #2
+1. Moscow Mitch can change any Senate rule with 51 votes dalton99a Dec 2019 #3
How would a rule change affect when Pelosi refers the Articles to the Senate? StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #8
The rule change would be WHETHER the Senate waits for a referral to begin a trial FBaggins Dec 2019 #57
Moscow Mitch likes being majority leader Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #61
And Pelosi likes being Speaker FBaggins Dec 2019 #62
pick a spot for your goalposts, please Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #63
I don't agree with that at all NJCher Dec 2019 #82
I assume if it is 50/50 then Iliyah Dec 2019 #52
Sure... but if it's 50/50 the rule negotiation will go our way FBaggins Dec 2019 #60
The Senate can change its rules, but it can't change House rules or make the House do anything StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #4
I suppose they could adopt a rule that doesn't require a House referral Shrek Dec 2019 #14
Starting a trial without any House managers would so clearly be a show trial, it would be a joke StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #19
It's already a show trial. TommyCelt Dec 2019 #32
It's a show trial. But it's a trial StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #34
So what? jberryhill Dec 2019 #41
The "what" is not that Pelosi's trying to get them to agree to anything in particular StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #53
I think she has something very specific in mind FBaggins Dec 2019 #79
The concern is Nancy is ASKING Moscow Traitor Mitch how he intends to proceed. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2019 #28
You don't think Pelosi knows this about Mitch? StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #33
I am the biggest fan of Nancy Pelosi on this site, or there is NO bigger fan and my Eliot Rosewater Dec 2019 #50
Moscow Mitch is reachable Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #59
Trump's DENVERPOPS Dec 2019 #68
I don't think he can change the rules that trigger the stial. That's part of the Constitution. napi21 Dec 2019 #91
Nancy "OG" Pelosi CanonRay Dec 2019 #5
Badass is Mme. Defarge Dec 2019 #6
It must take a long time... stillcool Dec 2019 #9
Of course, Moscow Mitch could try to change the rules at any time Fiendish Thingy Dec 2019 #10
This StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #70
She knows her stuff mcar Dec 2019 #11
NEVER forget that Nancy D'Alessandro Pelosi was born and raised in Baltimore. TygrBright Dec 2019 #12
so, now that we have him on two articles why not add some, I'm sure they can come up with a few yaesu Dec 2019 #13
I was thinking that the other day. LakeArenal Dec 2019 #51
I'm no scholar, but i did stay at a holiday inn express last night 😋 nt yaesu Dec 2019 #58
That should've been a commercial. LakeArenal Dec 2019 #80
This is the best thing I've heard of in a long time. Love Democratic hardball. somaticexperiencing Dec 2019 #15
brilliant lady marieo1 Dec 2019 #16
"Gangster" or "gangsta" is slang and in today's parlance it's a compliment... brush Dec 2019 #38
You're right, but I edited it out because it's just not worth the distraction StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #71
Yeah I'm sorry about that ismnotwasm Dec 2019 #75
No worries. StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #81
a story about gangsta' NJCher Dec 2019 #84
That's such a sweet story! StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #86
Let's not forget January 2019. Delmette2.0 Dec 2019 #17
The puzzle is so large we tend to cubbhole the moving parts bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #21
I like your subject line. Delmette2.0 Dec 2019 #24
I'm so glad we have her on our side. Pity the fools going up against her. IronLionZion Dec 2019 #18
So proud of her, and Scarsdale Dec 2019 #22
True StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #23
Yep empedocles Dec 2019 #25
I had been despondent, thinking this was going to be Mueller II Mr. Ected Dec 2019 #26
Yep, she out maneuvered Barr with her quick strike for impeachment,... brush Dec 2019 #40
Who's down with NDP?!? spicysista Dec 2019 #27
Pelosi La Grande -- making sure there's nothing McConnell's Do-Nothing Senate CAN do. ancianita Dec 2019 #29
Going against the grain here, I dont think this is a good idea. oldsoftie Dec 2019 #30
"optics" kinda flew out the window a while back Nature Man Dec 2019 #35
Whatever they Faux Snooze say, a big majority in polls want to see a Fair trial. Lock him up. Dec 2019 #42
Regardless of political views, Americans all understand the word fair DeminPennswoods Dec 2019 #54
And since Mitch has been crowing for weeks that he had no intention of being fair StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #72
Yep DeminPennswoods Dec 2019 #78
I agree. Sitting on the impeachment charges instead of sending them hughee99 Dec 2019 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author oldsoftie Dec 2019 #31
I could see Mcturtle change the rules to get the House to submit it's managers THEN bluestarone Dec 2019 #36
Yes jberryhill Dec 2019 #43
He needs 51 votes and that cheating would be too obvious. Lock him up. Dec 2019 #45
At this point i don't think any of them bluestarone Dec 2019 #47
Maybe that's true, or not. Lock him up. Dec 2019 #48
I don't necessarily agree StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #73
See your point for sure bluestarone Dec 2019 #74
Rep Blumenauer, D-OR, last night with Lawrence O.. asiliveandbreathe Dec 2019 #39
Be a shame if the Senate trial had to happen in the middle of the '20 Republican National Convention TlalocW Dec 2019 #44
This story is not about DT Viz Dec 2019 #46
MSNBC correspondent mins ago: Duppers Dec 2019 #49
Saying FAIR is enough DeminPennswoods Dec 2019 #55
Thanks for posting this very informative post. If Moscow Mitch can play a game, so can the ... SWBTATTReg Dec 2019 #56
Excellent post Stinky The Clown Dec 2019 #64
Can't McConnell just ignore the entire thing? Renew Deal Dec 2019 #65
If Moscow Mitch can refuse Obama his rightful Supreme Court nominee.... mudstump Dec 2019 #67
To those who say a woman can't beat Trump -- Pelosi does it almost every day! OMGWTF Dec 2019 #69
Experience we can trust! NANCY PELOSI ROCKS!!! She knows what she's doing! NurseJackie Dec 2019 #76
I'm in total agreement JustAnotherGen Dec 2019 #77
My husband's grandmother was friendly with the Pelosis for decades Aquaria Dec 2019 #83
Cool! StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #85
Sweet!! Pepsidog Dec 2019 #87
A late post PJMcK Dec 2019 #88
I loved that! Upthevibe Dec 2019 #89
Trump cant be acquitted if they never send them to the senate. pwb Dec 2019 #90
Wow, she is brilliant! So inspiring! BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2019 #92
When you've become so accustomed to your cheating succeeding you're dumbfounded, huh? czarjak Dec 2019 #93
Mexican standoff! Aussie105 Dec 2019 #94
Trump-Takers, stand strong now, the "I alone can fix it" dude is gonna need you more than ever. czarjak Dec 2019 #95
Yes, just hold them until Mitch gives in. honest.abe Dec 2019 #96
I must say, Joinfortmill Dec 2019 #97
Yes Indeed! cheezmaka Dec 2019 #98
THIS TIME, Pelosi is getting it right. Eyeball_Kid Dec 2019 #99
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