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11. It will be well worth it just to watch Trump lose his mind whenever the media refers to him as

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 10:55 PM

Dec 2019

"the impeached President Trump" during the entire 2020 election, and for the rest of his natural life. He will forever be remembered in history books as the corrupt traitor who did Putin's bidding.

Besides, there are millions of people out there who don't have a clue about the whole Ukraine scandal, and couldn't tell you who Adam Schiff is if their children's lives depended on it. These folks seemingly live in caves, only coming out to vote every two/four years. The fact that Trump has been "impeached" may sway them when they crawl from their holes and head for the polls.

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This was all for nothing -- that's what my so-called Democratic friend says. [View all] ancianita Dec 2019 OP

I see my cup filling up. LakeArenal Dec 2019 #1

I hear you. Thanks. ancianita Dec 2019 #2

He's not entirely wrong. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #3

We cannot say no one is above the law if it's not enforceable. Unenforceable law is no law at all. ancianita Dec 2019 #9

Impeachment isn't a legal process. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #18

I admit a tendency to conflate the two. But what is Constitutional law if not enforceable upon any ancianita Dec 2019 #23

Your friend is unfortunately correct I'm afraid. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2019 #4

Preserving the historic record matters, too. We can know about the many layers blm Dec 2019 #5

And what good is intelligence. What good is knowing. What has Kerry told us is the benefit of it. ancianita Dec 2019 #10

I read the report. It changes anyone who reads it. blm Dec 2019 #13

No good. I know this. But understanding is the booby prize. The next question is 'Now what?' ancianita Dec 2019 #16

What is the specific, legal end-goal you're looking for in all this? LanternWaste Dec 2019 #62

It's hard to be ignorant and brave. Seriously. Hortensis Dec 2019 #6

I've seen it before. I've never wanted to surrender. We're talking millions here. A mental landscape ancianita Dec 2019 #12

My advice? Take a step back from impeachment. Quackers Dec 2019 #7

Thank you. I'll seriously think on your advice. I think I have to. ancianita Dec 2019 #14

I agree completely with two of your ideas: Stuart G Dec 2019 #41

Your friend sounds disheartened and exhausted. lunatica Dec 2019 #8

That's what I wanted to call him -- the Chuck Todd Democrat. You make really good points about ancianita Dec 2019 #17

It will be well worth it just to watch Trump lose his mind whenever the media refers to him as sop Dec 2019 #11

Will he? It hasn't happened to the other presidents I've seen impeached. Just sayin'. ancianita Dec 2019 #15

LOL-- you're right. Clinton -- the only other impeached pres since the 19thC-- dawg day Dec 2019 #20

How many have you seen impeached? sop Dec 2019 #21

Nixon and Clinton. ancianita Dec 2019 #24

Nixon was not impeached. YOHABLO Dec 2019 #26

True, but a foregone conclusion that he would be. ancianita Dec 2019 #28

They didn't run for re-election. Big difference. brush Dec 2019 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author ancianita Dec 2019 #37

My calculator says it is time to wash socks. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2019 #22

I always suspect the ones who use "liberal" as a slur -- dawg day Dec 2019 #19

I forgot to remind him of that, thanks. I forgot there were even polls back then, or if they were ancianita Dec 2019 #25

also remind him of this: yellowdogintexas Dec 2019 #27

The Constitution is in violation of justice, as well, if it doesn't allow indicting a president. ancianita Dec 2019 #29

If the GOP doesn't convict, impeachment will backup how un-American and corrupt the gop is. rockfordfile Dec 2019 #30

They'll be like Putin, saying, "So what. That and a bus token will get you kids across town." ancianita Dec 2019 #32

My take: Sadly, nothing will happen... Binkie The Clown Dec 2019 #31

Man, I thought I was despairing. Being this "realist," are you still going to vote? ancianita Dec 2019 #33

Absolutely, I will vote, and I hope I'm totally wrong. Binkie The Clown Dec 2019 #35

Sadly greytdemocrat Dec 2019 #40

Your friend is exactly right. n/t greytdemocrat Dec 2019 #34

If my friend's right, and the majority here agree with him, then what's the point. Rule of law is ancianita Dec 2019 #38

I doubt the majority greytdemocrat Dec 2019 #42

I took a count. They do. And they explain why. So this was valuable to me. ancianita Dec 2019 #49

It sounds like he watches TV Blecht Dec 2019 #39

Doing the ethically correct things doesn't guarantee it works our well for us. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #43

Structurally, nothing guarantees your happiness anymore. Believe that if you have to, though. ancianita Dec 2019 #44

There was no implicit guarantee of happiness in what you responded to. LanternWaste Dec 2019 #61

Yes. It's easy to let ourselves fall into the illusion that Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #53

Time To Throw In The Damn Towel LovingA2andMI Dec 2019 #45

Oh, he's going to vote. And I'll always vote. Read Part 2. He's realistic. I'm the one who's down. ancianita Dec 2019 #46

First, one should never assume the DU crowd is reflective of the overall Dem electorate. Garrett78 Dec 2019 #47

I don't assume that. DU's had that discussion a number of times. And so yes, ignorance IS a national ancianita Dec 2019 #48

Agree. I still don't get why the candidates are not Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #54

The articles of impeachment have not been written yet... Lock him up. Dec 2019 #50

I agree, and argued vociferously against his outlook. He calls it 'realism,' not defeatism. But the ancianita Dec 2019 #56

IMO, reality plus fear nitpicker Dec 2019 #51

It's always been an exercise of doing what is right and Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #52

Whoever successfully lobbies Republican senators needs to "at least try," too. Soon. ancianita Dec 2019 #57

Hear ya. But just maybe standing up and clearly Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #58

Standing up and calling out are the righteous booby prize when scofflaws say: "whatcha gonna do?! ancianita Dec 2019 #60

Actually Kasich said same thing on cnn Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #63

I am not ready to give in to a predetermined end mnhtnbb Dec 2019 #55

Yes...just can't see how a no vote could possibly help Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #59